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"With freedom comes risk; the less risk we are willing to take, the less freedom we have. "

 

But you have none - you've already given it way - regardless of whom you might think you're feeding. You've no idea.

 

Kind Rgds

 

So you say, stick to watches.

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JUST HOW Can so many people be sooo wrong; and I didn't even bring the subject up?! Talk-back politely and the worlds outraged masses of 'watch enthusiasts' zip into overdrive and display their complete ignorance, complacency and gullibility whilst still defending that which they can't even be bothered to check the facts and evidence over; www.drjudywood.com ; Its directly proportional to the amount of TV one watches so all those impolite yet 'outraged' zombies who don't mind that their lives and freedoms are gradually being shutdown bit by bit....just so long as they can hear their watches ticking. You ALL deserve it, you really do - and you'll lose it all too and for the children of the future. They'll be ashamed of you all..... but hey, you've got some watches to look at. All about priorities I suppose, but how easy its all being given away, amazing.

 

No wonder its all gotten away with so easily, the '99%' have been dumbed-down (quaint English saying) so far they wouldn't know a bar of steel from a bar of soap ; 236 around each WTC Tower & 47 even THICKER ones in the core ... all turned largely to dust by Directed Energy Weapons for an array of reasons but not least as justification to kick off the war on terror www.drjudywood.com

 

Now, we were talking about watches I believe..... or at least I was.

 

I'll try another thread...see who answers.... one of the brainwashed or a gen watch enthusiast with an open mind....Jeeeesh.

 

Kind Rgds

I study chemistry, look around the world at the amount of universities that have done studies on the world trade centre collapse. 

Though I am sure you will not take anything from this video as you'll believe that the new world order or illuminati are controlling this guy through fluoride in the water or chem trails, many others may.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLthPsWmE3cefpc2sBzI9gamfS9eJRdgEK

A playlist of videos of a chemist debunking the false claims made by the 9/11 "truther" movement when commenting on science incorrectly.

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I study chemistry, look around the world at the amount of universities that have done studies on the world trade centre collapse. 

Though I am sure you will not take anything from this video as you'll believe that the new world order or illuminati are controlling this guy through fluoride in the water or chem trails, many others may.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLthPsWmE3cefpc2sBzI9gamfS9eJRdgEK

A playlist of videos of a chemist debunking the false claims made by the 9/11 "truther" movement when commenting on science incorrectly.

Okay, I watched several of 'his' videos including the Building7 one and if he's not a determined and vain fool he's DisInfoOps....the very people he jokes about; a double bluffer throwing out all the insults about 'conspiracy nuts' and that how anybody who doesn't follow the official narrative AND his unscientific non-explanations clearly needs help.

 

Straight away its a FAIL; No Boeing 767 can fly @ 550 knots at 800 feet for all kinds of reasons but I'm not going to repeat myself here if people cannot be bothered to do some homework or even read and comprehend that point let alone the hundreds I raise directly and indirectly. Random..... Okay, explain the 1250 cars toasted on FDR Drive?! You can't, he can't - chase back and look at the other serious questions. Can't be bothered? Then you simply don't want to know, do you, stay ignorant - why should I care about someone who doesnt' care himself?

 

If people WON'T look - they're saying in effect they WANT to be HAD, conned, and made fools of as their worlds are taken away from them, bit by bit. And that's why its being allowed to happen, lethargy, complacency and ignorance.

 

Kind Rgds nevertheless.

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Well, as I wrote somewhere, 1st thing I'll do once received it will be open the case and look inside ;)

Let us know, please. Yes, you've chosen a particularly nice model ... blue bezel in PVD incl bracelet.

 

That movement is effectively the same as the A2836 but with cosmetic enhancements... ? Didn't know but not surprised about different grades of A2836s....bit of a lottery it appears.

 

Kind Rgds

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Okay, I watched several of 'his' videos including the Building7 one and if he's not a determined and vain fool he's DisInfoOps....the very people he jokes about; a double bluffer throwing out all the insults about 'conspiracy nuts' and that how anybody who doesn't follow the official narrative AND his unscientific non-explanations clearly needs help.

 

Straight away its a FAIL; No Boeing 767 can fly @ 550 knots at 800 feet for all kinds of reasons but I'm not going to repeat myself here if people cannot be bothered to do some homework or even read and comprehend that point let alone the hundreds I raise directly and indirectly. Random..... Okay, explain the 1250 cars toasted on FDR Drive?! You can't, he can't - chase back and look at the other serious questions. Can't be bothered? Then you simply don't want to know, do you, stay ignorant - why should I care about someone who doesnt' care himself?

 

If people WON'T look - they're saying in effect they WANT to be HAD, conned, and made fools of as their worlds are taken away from them, bit by bit. And that's why its being allowed to happen, lethargy, complacency and ignorance.

 

Kind Rgds nevertheless.

 

 

"His"? really? why the heck is the pronoun for the gender noted as such?

What's your scientific / engineering education? You seem to have an awful lot of knowledge on the matter to be making very large claims without stating any sources.

You have absolutely no use of "Occam's razor" type logic in your argument, because it's a lot more likely that a government that couldn't hide a semen stain could have orchestrated the use of "star wars energy weapons" (Dr Judy Wood) than terrorism occurring.

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"His"? really? why the heck is the pronoun for the gender noted as such?

What's your scientific / engineering education? You seem to have an awful lot of knowledge on the matter to be making very large claims without stating any sources.

You have absolutely no use of "Occam's razor" type logic in your argument, because it's a lot more likely that a government that couldn't hide a semen stain could have orchestrated the use of "star wars energy weapons" (Dr Judy Wood) than terrorism occurring.

Good Morning,

 

Its hardly an edifying proposition repeating his use of a silly and rather sordid term to 'explain away' so-called Govt incompetence as the answer to everything - or rather how they can't hide any imaginary fraud so silly are they. Likewise the over-used 'Occams razor' - meaningless in the context and very disrespectful to those who paid the price for all the lies and coverup let alone the crime.

 

Similarly you CANNOT take Dr Wood's volume of scientific evidence Where Did The Towers Go? together with good old common sense and reason looking at all the things I list mostly in reference to her amazing work and gnore it all as irrelevant as if her highly specialist Materials Science, Physics and Interferometry Phd, Msc, Bsc and fine mind are ...worthless or misguided at best.

 

As for trying to pull the 'what are your qualifications' card - that's like shouting down the victim of a stabbing demanding how can they know they were stabbed by a vicious intruder if they don't have a degree and 30 years experience in sharp objects and policing?!

 

Again - another one in complete denial about the facts and evidence and preferring to pull the covers up in their cosy world for fear of what you'll find if you REALLY DARE LOOK.

 

And by the way, if Physics, Chemistry and Materials 'experts' at the worlds top universities are so clever why don't they speak of their findings let alone their suspicions? I know, because I've written to dozens of them and they're either brainwashed like the 99% or scared witless of the consequences if they challenge any official narrative, that's why they don't and won't speak out. Ultimately they're cowards, and selfish ones at that - especially when remembering they have positions of great responsibility in teaching the young.

 

Kind Rgds

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Good Morning,

 

Its hardly an edifying proposition repeating his use of a silly and rather sordid term to 'explain away' so-called Govt incompetence as the answer to everything - or rather how they can't hide any imaginary fraud so silly are they. Likewise the over-used 'Occams razor' - meaningless in the context and very disrespectful to those who paid the price for all the lies and coverup let alone the crime.

 

Similarly you CANNOT take Dr Wood's volume of scientific evidence Where Did The Towers Go? together with good old common sense and reason looking at all the things I list mostly in reference to her amazing work and gnore it all as irrelevant as if her highly specialist Materials Science, Physics and Interferometry Phd, Msc, Bsc and fine mind are ...worthless or misguided at best.

 

As for trying to pull the 'what are your qualifications' card - that's like shouting down the victim of a stabbing demanding how can they know they were stabbed by a vicious intruder if they don't have a degree and 30 years experience in sharp objects and policing?!

 

Again - another one in complete denial about the facts and evidence and preferring to pull the covers up in their cosy world for fear of what you'll find if you REALLY DARE LOOK.

 

And by the way, if Physics, Chemistry and Materials 'experts' at the worlds top universities are so clever why don't they speak of their findings let alone their suspicions? I know, because I've written to dozens of them and they're either brainwashed like the 99% or scared witless of the consequences if they challenge any official narrative, that's why they don't and won't speak out. Ultimately they're cowards, and selfish ones at that - especially when remembering they have positions of great responsibility in teaching the young.

 

Kind Rgds

 

Comparing intricate scientific knowledge to that of whether or not somebody was stabbed is an insult to all of us who have or are studying the sciences. It is a completely different discipline to rudimentary knowledge of a stab wound and I know that you know that. If you want to make big scientific claims, you must either have evidence or have studied it, you can't just pull it out of nowhere, that isn't science.

Occams razor is often used as it is a simple method of reasoning that states that if you are making up a convoluted means for which something is true, a far simpler reasoning is often true.

How is it possible that the countless countless people that would be needed to keep such an act quiet would all have not said anything after all these years, how none of them would have evidence which they could sell off to the highest bidder of many nations who wish to see the US government crumble, how so many people on the planes have disappeared to not be seen again by anybody, or are all of their families simply shills?

 

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Comparing intricate scientific knowledge to that of whether or not somebody was stabbed is an insult to all of us who have or are studying the sciences. It is a completely different discipline to rudimentary knowledge of a stab wound and I know that you know that. If you want to make big scientific claims, you must either have evidence or have studied it, you can't just pull it out of nowhere, that isn't science.

Occams razor is often used as it is a simple method of reasoning that states that if you are making up a convoluted means for which something is true, a far simpler reasoning is often true.

How is it possible that the countless countless people that would be needed to keep such an act quiet would all have not said anything after all these years, how none of them would have evidence which they could sell off to the highest bidder of many nations who wish to see the US government crumble, how so many people on the planes have disappeared to not be seen again by anybody, or are all of their families simply shills?

 

If there WERE no planes then logically it follows there WERE no 'passengers', so that's your first presumption debunked. You must do your own homework on this if you are genuinely interested in discovering what happened, only please DON'T believe what you see on the TV or in films - they're a part of the problem creating the relentless brainwashing.

 

Spare me 'occams flaming razor'; it has NO PLACE here. You want evidence and then ignore the evidence and pointers to I bring; search back, I'm not repeating it every time someone pops up. Don't be lazy. Likewise you talk in terms of 'intricate scientific knowledge' which you then go on to IGNORE, whilst then throwing back a petty analogy in ridicule which you offered up in the first place; quite distasteful and disengenuous - its in the videos YOU linked to, okay.

 

'How is it possible ....countless people...' - Well to start, no planes no passengers, simple. It then becomes an illusory and PhyOps game which worked. Suggestion, peer pressure and conditioning work wonders on a pressurised and dumbed down mass of humanoids who mostly are more interested in beer, pizza and TV than reality or real life and truth even.

 

The countless people are all being kept in line one way or another even if its only not speaking out against the official narrative thru fear of losing ones J.O.B. or 'looking stoopid' in the face OF all that rubbish official 9/11 commission and NIST reporting.

 

You like in a world of high power collective fakery that INCLUDES the Media; Media plays an enormous part in conditioning and keeping the dumbies down and in order.

 

Please do your own homework rather than believing rubbish by so-called 'experts' who are in on the game to save their own rotten necks.

 

[ Howard Beale : Network, 1976]

 

Kind Rgds

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And the plane that crashed into the Pentagon and the other in a field in Pennsylvania were either imaginary or some kind of diversion? And all those people in the planes that died were all part of this fantasy of yours? And the  Arab pilots that took flying lessons in South Florida.were all imaginary also?

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Guys, the troll is well fed, he has had his daily fodder. How about we agree that he is beyond help and do not do further dealing with one who relished off of his belief that he has superior knowledge than the rest of us, even if he if saying that the media is wrong and the faceless "professionals" of the internet are right. This type of person is not going to see reason, they're simply too far into the depths of madness to be pulled out and seems far more interested in spouting their belief of delusion than the watches we so peacefully enjoy in this community.

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Straight away its a FAIL; No Boeing 767 can fly @ 550 knots at 800 feet for all kinds of reasons but I'm not going to repeat myself here

 

That's simply not true. Yes, it's outside the certified flight envelope, but airplanes don't magically explode when they exceed Vmax.

 

( I have both a PhD in physics and a pilot's license.)

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That's simply not true. Yes, it's outside the certified flight envelope, but airplanes don't magically explode when they exceed Vmax.

 

( I have both a PhD in physics and a pilot's license.)

Good Morning,

 

Yes it is - and most definitely IS whatever you postulate about Vmax.

 

Pilots including ex 747,757,767,777 pilots are united (mainly retired) in stating that the 'Official 9/11 Report' as compiled by NIST of the planes 'hitting the towers' is simply impossible and if only for the reason that no Boeing Jumbo of whatever flavour can fly at 500mph at altitudes less than 30,000 feet and certainly not at 700ft (approximately floor 80 of WTC1&2) as their wings would break off and the entire fuselage would be shattered due to resistance of the air alone, and that's assuming the planes could get the additional 8 times more power to propel them to that speed at such a low altitude - another impossibility in itself wouldn't you agree? I wonder if you saw that and what your thoughts on it are. I think you can find that too on the accompanying video. (The many pilots include John Lear of Lear Jet Corp, Capt. Russ Wittenberg pilot of 747, 757, 767, 777, Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy (ret) pilot of 757, 767, military aircraft, combat instructor; and 100s of others)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKHqhdlpvOQ

 

If you have a PhD in physics that's something to be proud of. So where did you get it from, which University, what year, what was your thesis on, what is the PhD number and cert. number and the issuing / authorising signature?

 

My oldest friend also is pilot 'too' (a REAL one), as well as Chief Pilot and Head of Flying but only of Cessnas for military and police and just on the ALUMINUM / STEEL impact to slice thru the buildings he laughs as he knows its all a sad and sorry tale of makebelieve; thin alley wings are not designed to cut thru 3 inch thick 4 foot wide solid steel beams and girders, believe it or not, they're designed light for lift and overall efficiency - not building demolition that may surprise you to learn. But as for flying at 7-800 feet at that kind of speed its breaks all known laws of mechanical science, materials science and sorry to say....common sense.

 

But you have a nice day.

 

Kind Rgds

 

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Yes it is - and most definitely IS whatever you postulate about Vmax.

 

No, it's not.

 

Vne is a number (well, it's a number as a function of altitude at any rate). It's an arbitrary line drawn across the flight envelope. If an airplane is going 1 knot below Vne, it's within the envelope. Going 2 knots faster puts it 1 knot outside the envelope.

 

This does not cause the airplane to explode, or the wings to rip off, or any other nonsense. That's not how structural failure works. Vne can be and has been exceeded without catastrophic damage. An aircraft that exceeds Vne MAY experience immediate catastrophic structural failure (Egyptair 990 for example), but it doesn't automatically break into a million pieces.

 

 as their wings would break off and the entire fuselage would be shattered due to resistance of the air alone, and that's assuming the planes could get the additional 8 times more power to propel them to that speed at such a low altitude - another impossibility in itself wouldn't you agree

 

Nor is that how air resistance works. And those speeds are easily achievable at low altitudes by 767s -- those planes were descending from altitude. Height = energy = speed. A 767 can't accelerate to that speed at that altitude in level flight, but it can certainly achieve that speed in a shallow dive. Simple physics.

 

If you have a PhD in physics that's something to be proud of. So where did you get it from, which University, what year, what was your thesis on, what is the PhD number and cert. number and the issuing / authorising signature?

 

Among the other things you know absolutely nothing about, a PhD is not "numbered" nor does it have a "cert. number" or an "issuing signature". Take a look:

 

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My oldest friend also is pilot 'too' (a REAL one)

 

If he's a REAL pilot I guess he has one of these

 

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, as well as Chief Pilot and Head of Flying but only of Cessnas for military and police and just on the ALUMINUM / STEEL impact to slice thru the buildings he laughs as he knows its all a sad and sorry tale of makebelieve; thin alley wings are not designed to cut thru 3 inch thick 4 foot wide solid steel beams and girders, believe it or not, they're designed light for lift and overall efficiency

 

 

I used to be a demo guy in the Marine Corps (well, technically I was an 0351, not EOD or combat engineers, but we did a lot of demo). I have seen pieces of plywood punch through sheet metal and glass marbles go through concrete. Aluminum will cut steel and concrete when it's traveling at a relative speed of 800 mph, no problem at all. Simple physics.

 

Congratulations, you're an idiot. I'm not even talking about the 9/11 thing now -- you don't understand basic physics like "when airplanes come down from high up they can go fast." You display a shocking lack of ability to reason. 

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No, it's not.

 

Vne is a number (well, it's a number as a function of altitude at any rate). It's an arbitrary line drawn across the flight envelope. If an airplane is going 1 knot below Vne, it's within the envelope. Going 2 knots faster puts it 1 knot outside the envelope.

 

This does not cause the airplane to explode, or the wings to rip off, or any other nonsense. That's not how structural failure works. Vne can be and has been exceeded without catastrophic damage. An aircraft that exceeds Vne MAY experience immediate catastrophic structural failure (Egyptair 990 for example), but it doesn't automatically break into a million pieces.

 

 

Nor is that how air resistance works. And those speeds are easily achievable at low altitudes by 767s -- those planes were descending from altitude. Height = energy = speed. A 767 can't accelerate to that speed at that altitude in level flight, but it can certainly achieve that speed in a shallow dive. Simple physics.

 

 

 

Among the other things you know absolutely nothing about, a PhD is not "numbered" nor does it have a "cert. number" or an "issuing signature". Take a look:

 

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If he's a REAL pilot I guess he has one of these

 

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I used to be a demo guy in the Marine Corps (well, technically I was an 0351, not EOD or combat engineers, but we did a lot of demo). I have seen pieces of plywood punch through sheet metal and glass marbles go through concrete. Aluminum will cut steel and concrete when it's traveling at a relative speed of 800 mph, no problem at all. Simple physics.

 

Congratulations, you're an idiot. I'm not even talking about the 9/11 thing now -- you don't understand basic physics like "when airplanes come down from high up they can go fast." You display a shocking lack of ability to reason. 

 

Hi again,

 

Several insults in one post eh.... are you worried about something, hiding something or just wrong and rumbled so kind of kicking out. Either way you've lost because of : So its  FAIL for you too already.

 

But looking at your wider response - you did your PhD in 2012 did you? And at 'Evanstone, Illinois'? :bangin:   Before ripping pictures from the internet its best to check for a fit beforehand  :g:

 

Surely you'd show YOUR cert. as you're so proud of it, I know I would be; still cover up the name, sure, but why not show an authentic one if that is what you're attempting to pass off here. But anyway, the insults - most unbecoming and doesn't say much for a holder of any PhD qualification. And FYI I meant the issuing Cert number at the University - believe me, they have them - but maybe you're not aware of that. So just state WHICH University you earned your PhD in Physics and WHEN....date please?

 

Then tell us about your Thesis - What was the title and what was it about? And what methodologies did you use in your studies/research? But please, spare me the insults, I'm only after truth but the resistance encountered in the pursuit of it can be quite intense which is quite a surprise, wouldn't you agree on that at least...ie if you want to know the truth why be resistant to evidence that points towards it? Bit of a 'no brainer' ...that's what we call that in England. And on that score - ID's covered up of 'id' mean very little , but you may be a pilot, so what? Means nothing, especially when bearing in mind so many 'top' professionals are conditioned into accepting the Official Narrative and they're fully qualified to be brainwashed drones too, didn't you know. So my oldest mate's qualifications will trump yours but that isn't the point, and of course, cannot reveal his identity - totally improper and silly to of course.

 

"Nor is that how air resistance works. And those speeds are easily achievable at low altitudes by 767s -- those planes were descending from altitude. Height = energy = speed. A 767 can't accelerate to that speed at that altitude in level flight, but it can certainly achieve that speed in a shallow dive. Simple physics".

 

FAIL. Even a ('Ipcress is a dumbass' & 'You're a moron') knows that 'the planes' were NOT descending from height when they 'went into the Towers' - as there WERE none in the first place. But even the pictures on TV show the planes as flying in level and from a distance on WTC2. Your supposition is based on imaginary scenarios that simply didn't happen nor could have done.

 

 

Professor Reynolds ...someone who actually does have a PhD just as Dr Judy Wood has :

 

 

But this is just the 'aeroplanes' at the scene of the crime - what about ALL the other evidence that 'believers' ignore, including you no doubt. Does not all the other damning evidence surrounding 9/11 including the Pentagon and Shanksville, WTC7, WTC6,WTC5,WTC4,&WTC3 - All destroyed? The 1250 cars, trucks and buses toasted on FDR Drive 1km away, what had that to do with the 'two planes'?

 

Admit it, you're in denial or one of the dumbed down 99% ....or worse of all ... a well placed DisinfoOp? You choose.

 

You see, all that and without insulting you, easy.

 

Have a nice day.

 

Kind Rgds

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You see, all that and without insulting you, easy.

Actually, you were quite insulting. Calling someone an Internet faker and a liar is quite insulting. You didn't win any points in that debate.

 

Hey Ipcress, while you're busy personally attacking Sneed personally for his message. why did you ignore my questions? Tell me more about how they faked the other two planes and how they dummied up all the info about the dead passengers, their cell phone calls and records and about the hijackers and how they were attending flight school down here in South Florida.

 

And the Towers didn't fall from airplanes cutting through steel beams. They fell from the extreme heat caused by thousands of gallons of jet fuel and the inferno it caused melting the steel girders to the point that they could no longer hold up the weight above them. Your argument is so full of holes it could be compared to Swiss cheese.

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Every time I see a new Ipcress posting, I want to reach for a bowl of popcorn, sit back and prepare for some great comedy!      Read this guy's profile (interests).   He's good at it, gotta give him that.    Give the man an Oscar!

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But looking at your wider response - you did your PhD in 2012 did you? And at 'Evanstone, Illinois'? :bangin:   Before ripping pictures from the internet its best to check for a fit beforehand  :g:Surely you'd show YOUR cert. as you're so proud of it, I know I would be; still cover up the name, sure, but why not show an authentic one if that is what you're attempting to pass off here. But anyway, the insults - most unbecoming and doesn't say much for a holder of any PhD qualification. And FYI I meant the issuing Cert number at the University - believe me, they have them - but maybe you're not aware of that. So just state WHICH University you earned your PhD in Physics and WHEN....date please?

 

1) Yes, my PhD says "Evanston" Illinois... as that's where Northwestern University is located. 
"Northwestern University is a private research university with campuses in Evanston and Chicago in Illinois, United States. Wikipedia "
2) You assert that I lifted pictures off the internet... yet it's clear from the picture that I physically had the degree with me.
 
3) If you were to look for pictures of Northwestern PhDs on the internet, it would become clear quickly that my degree is an authentic one.
 
4) If you think someone with a PhD is less likely to insult you, you must not have ever met anyone with a PhD in real life. Having a PhD doesn't make a person any nicer, if anything PhD holders tend to be more prickly and far less tolerant of blatant idiocy like the kind you are displaying right now. (And also, as someone with a PhD in physics... no one would pretend to have a PhD in physics. Physicists aren't that cool. If you're going to lie about what you do, you're going to be an astronaut or a Navy SEAL, not a physicist.)
 
5) Speaking of your idiocy, you demand to know what university I graduated from and the date. You know those are printed right on the degree, yes? They're literally right there in the picture.
 
6) PhDs do not have a "cert number." They are not a professional qualification, it's not like a PE license or a bar card. If you need to prove that you have a PhD (for a new job or whatnot) it's customary to submit academic transcripts.
 
7) As for my thesis, it was about the flavor-changing neutral current interaction. I'm a particle physicist. My academic institution was Northwestern, but I actually did my research at CERN, I worked at the LHC. I happen to have a copy at my desk, in fact
 
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If you want to look even more stupid, I can dig up some pictures later of me at CERN and me getting hooded. Don't have time right at the moment. 

 

 FAIL. Even a ('Ipcress is a dumbass' & 'You're a moron') knows that 'the planes' were NOT descending from height when they 'went into the Towers' - as there WERE none in the first place. But even the pictures on TV show the planes as flying in level and from a distance on WTC2. Your supposition is based on imaginary scenarios that simply didn't happen nor could have done.

 

The planes were hijacked at altitude. They came down from that altitude. Therefore, they were high up in the sky and then came down. Do you need me to draw you a picture? The fact that they were in straight and nearly level flight for the last few miles doesn't mean they didn't come down from high up.

 

Admit it, you're in denial or one of the dumbed down 99% ....or worse of all ... a well placed DisinfoOp? You choose.

 

And we've reached the end of the rabbit hole -- you can't logically refute what I'm saying, so you accuse me of being a "DisinfoOp" (a word which I'd never heard until today, but whose meaning seems clear from context). I guess you've "uncovered" the "truth". I'll go back to running the X-files now.

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