rbj69 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Many people know i own genuine and i used to own this baby with a large price tag on it and boy am i glad i sold it , cause this rep is almost perfect match to it, i never like asians but this one is too close , i was scared from the pics i have seen of it but then i had to pull the trigger, paul and joshua r the ones that i know off right now that have it in stock, for a very good price, i was expecting some crap but it was not pros- case and bezel r almost perfect , crown guard is very well done, dial is well perfect, i am amazed how exact it really is, hour markers r brighter than my genuine so no need for relume on this one, even the tswisst on the dial is almost perfect, carbon fiber dial is almost exact, talk about bang for the buck here it is , the rubber deployment is excellent made and same softness as my genuine one, second hand sweep is almost perfect for asian movment,caseback isnt bad at all with nice engraving and just about the same as genuine(some font is a wee bit smaller on genuine ) , if it had papers and the nice special edtition box it would fool most cons- asian auto, but it is the newer eta copy version so it may hold up better, but im still not sold on them lol, the crown is better than some i have seen but being picky i have to put mine on them when i get them done, weight seems to be about right maybe a tad light but not really noticeable,datefont and cyclops r weak like most but the cyclops is bigger in diameter more like the genuine size just not as clear and bright if u know what i mean, bezel is snug but a bit louder compared to my genuine one overall , definitely a keeper and a very nice piece if u like subs in panerai, i missed my genuine but not anymore this one is just as good and most of the flaws can be fixed , the best replica sub pam out by far, even the finish on the bezel is pretty darn good, it does need to be more shiney and satin but that is something that is fixable for sure , enjoy the pics the replica on the wrist the genuine on the wrist the genuine front veiw more closer image to compare replica in angel shot replica in opposite angle shot genuine in angle shot replica side shot crown guard genuine side profiel crown guard side genuine caseback replica caseback as u can see it is very close and very nice piece for this price,it needs a more satin shiney finish on the bezel and caseback but like i said it is close cosmetically, enjoy and i love comments , that is why i spend time helping educate u guys , lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 heres the genuine in its nice presentation box for a special edition heres another poor attempt of the lume shot , i never take good pics of the lume but here goes anyway lol soon i will show u after i mod it and show u how nice u can make this one , wowowowwo more projects lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 nice review rbj... nobody could compare them better than you...because you had the gen... tnx for the review again..nice read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBombadil Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Nice to hear that the rep is so great coming from a previous gen owner. Thanks for the review, Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRT Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Damn it...I have to buy another watch. Nice review. Who did you buy this one from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 glad u liked the review one more thing i noticed cause i have been wearing it now , the markers on the bezel r really sharp and will and have snagged my shirt lol so that will need to be buffed to be smoother as well , lol something that is very doable, im loving this watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 glad u liked the review one more thing i noticed cause i have been wearing it now , the markers on the bezel r really sharp and will and have snagged my shirt lol so that will need to be buffed to be smoother as well , lol something that is very doable, im loving this watch rbj69, your review is terrific. I had noticed that this one (from the pictures) looked extremely accurate compared to the other model that is similar ( I forget the number). Anyway, as a result another one I now have to get! Wear it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtolcad Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 great review joe nothing like getting it from the horse's mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 dammist thing i have ever seen, this particular watch is funny as hek , made totally different than the higher dollar ones and may be more correct, i am going to look inside my genuine to see, the cyclops is carved in the crystal , it is not a seperate piece, did u here me right? yes it is not a cyclops glued on and im not too sure genuine isnt the same deal , i never went inside my genuine to see , its crazy lol , i think with the correct date font u will be ok but i thought that was strange, also these bezel r put on with authority , they have the wire system ,but it is different im still trying to figure out how they got it on, cause i scarred my bezel all up trying to get it off and im usually good about it ,(the beauty is i can fix all the scarrs lol) this one is one of the hardest ones to remove i have dealt with , i punctured a hole in my beautiful thumb tool to remove it , so beware, and yes if u want me to polish it and smooth it out to be like genuine , it will be much more than a normal bezel removal and polishing , u will save if u do this one yourself lmao, no punn intended lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplehd Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Awesome info and review Joe .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtolcad Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 joe i always wonder if when you write lmao if you are actually laughing your ass off at that particular time. if so, you must be one of the jolliest guys around - and that, my friend is a good thing. very interesting info about the crystal/cyclops...can't wait to hear an update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 If you've ever spoken to Joe on the phone, you'll see that he writes like he talks So... When he types lmao, he's probably chuckling at that moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Great review Joe, it's nice to have the genuine to compare to. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 If you've ever spoken to Joe on the phone, you'll see that he writes like he talks So... When he types lmao, he's probably chuckling at that moment lmao , im laughing now , that is why i like talking with u guys then u can figure out what the hell it is im trying to explain when i show u something or teach u something, randy u hit the nail on the head for sure , guess what ? my thumbtool is damaged pretty bad, that screwdriver must of done something to my bone/joint cause i cant move it without cringing right now, note to self this watch is a painful experience, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 So, Joe... Is this bezel even more difficult to remove than an AP Royal Oak rep's bezel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Awesome post Joe. Whenever I read your posts I add a little 'country' to them in my head, and the odd "sh*t" thrown in here and there for good measure! GREAT watch; be picking this up for myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimster Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Joe, Are you saying this one doesn't need any mods to make the grade? Jim Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 So, Joe... Is this bezel even more difficult to remove than an AP Royal Oak rep's bezel? two different animals actually, the ap can get nicked really easy cause it has sharp edges and would be very ugly if u nick it, now the sub is held one by a wire well not anymore it doesnt need that much strenght actaully so im going to replace mine with a simple oring so i can take it on and off easier next time it hold on by itself actually but the oring will be safety for a big hit or something like that,its also a [censored] getting it back on cause when u finally get it off and repair the underneat marrs u actually take it out of round a bit, this thing is built very precise more than any bezel i have tackled ,to me it is made exceptionally well for under 200 bucks, i have finished refinishing the the watch to more like my genuine shine but i got me a hole in my thumbtool lol, i can see many people screwing this one up , i almost did and im supposed to be a professional lmao , i also added a thicker flat oring in the crown and this baby is ready for the beach , the crystal is glued in with a very tight seal , just put my new officen firenze da vinci strap on it will show u pics soon of it , it is going to be one of my beaters for sure , i love it alot , soon as i get me some datewheels and new crown it will be cosmetically 99% correct in my eyes , which is saying alot for a low cost watch , just hope this movment holds up , i am going to service it after i get the datewheels and let u know what is up with it ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Joe, Are you saying this one doesn't need any mods to make the grade? Jim Seattle u can wear it as is , do the comparison from my genuine and the rep , if u seek it to be perfect or very close then u should refinish the watch and change the datefont and the crown, the crown guard is damn near perfect, even the screws for this one r the thicker ones like on my genuine, and my higher dollar pams have them cheap shitty screws on them , which makes me very angry now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 heres the after refinishing shot also with my new awesome officene firenze strap replica after refinishing the case to match up to genuine this is genuine, what refinished the rep by new tc buckle on a OF da vinci strap replica caseback after refinishing \ genuine caseback i modded by notice the lighting is slightly different but u can see the shine is about the same , enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchwatcher Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 joe, can we get a straight on shot of the face so we can see the date window/font. I have yet to see a single picture of the date window. I realize it won't be pretty, just wondering how legible the date is. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampam Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Awesome after the refinishing!! Think I'll pull the trigger on this next. Great review Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 heres a shot of the datewheel for u in dimmer lighting and the second pic is one i took quickly , in normal lighting but it has a reflection but u can see it anyway , take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jraines87 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Damn joe.... I'd like to had a chance at the genuine before you sold it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbj69 Posted March 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 get the rep its the same lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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