Builder81 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hello everyone - I'm new to the board, but have done a fair amount of research as a lurker, until now. As many of you know, the tt submariner with blue face - 16613 has very few quality replicas in the market. I do want to attempt to have a good replica put together though. My plan is as follows: TC v6 tc 16613 bezel insert, dial an hands aftermarket bracelet from tnsdiamonds gen crown and tube gen clasp aftermarket 18k bezel i plan to send a tc v6 off to be modded with the tc bezel insert, dial and hands i plan to replace the bracelet with a aftermarket real 18k/ss bracelet, replace the clasp with a genuine clasp, and replace the bezel woth an aftermatket real 18k bezel. i plan to replace the crown with a genuine crown also. i will pay someone in the community to do the mods. budget is $2700 assuming all goes well i think i will end up with a very good looking device for less than $2700. What do you think of my plan? any pitfalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well, you've got a plan and what would appear to be a fairly liberal budget. Have you purchased anything yet? A breakdown of where you're spending the money would be helpful. As for pitfalls, you won't know what those will be til you find them! Datewheel overlay- you'll need one of those in the champagne color (gold). Are you using the TC 2824-2 for a movement? Misikped has built the 16613- might check out his work. Ruprekt over at RWI also has done this watch with success- might check him out. texrob has a post on the TT 16613 over there also- check it out. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 The Bracelet alone will be around 900 if it needs to be solid gold tc is 575 if i remember right gen Crown 100 to 120 us Others i dont remember but you should be able to make it Just remember payment to the modder in the mix aswell Good research done mate i noob who did he's research i salute you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Nice first post. You have clearly been doing some research. Good plan on your project. The bracelet is the hardest part. I just sold an old rep real gold tt bracelet to another member who has used that model before and knows how to change the last link out to give it proper stampings. Good luck and welcome to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagfan1 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 You did your homework nice first post. I've done a number of similar builds so here is some advice. unless you already have the tc v6 just order the case and case back. If you are looking at the wso 18k bezel find a tc or wm9 retainer the wso is not great. If you are using a 2824h4 movement you will want a BK DWO and the tc movements are great don't get me wrong but if you are going to drop that amount of cash on a build I would use a serviced swiss movement. I would suggest a Gen insert not the tc the gen insert is a must for a build like this. Your bracelet will be a bit more difficult as it should be an sel bracelet the 93153 style bracelet can be modded if you can source sel's it is also important that whoever mods the bracelet can shape the sel's properly to fit the case (this is very important I have seen plenty of $2000+ frankens that just flat look rep because the sel's don't follow the lugs properly). Gen clasp will be difficult to source if you want the proper stamping for a 16613 if the stamping is not important to you I would suggest just using a tc clasp gen's aren't much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Mymanmatt built one for me a year or two back. I would suggest that you budget for a gen dial as well,the gen just can't be duplicated. Mine has gen dial ,crystal,insert, crown /tube aftermarket 18k bezel. Gold wrapped bracelet with plated gold end link sides. Gen spec case made it a pretty straightforward build. ETA 2824 w champagne DW overlay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Mymanmatt built one for me a year or two back. I would suggest that you budget for a gen dial as well,the gen just can't be duplicated. Mine has gen dial ,crystal,insert, crown /tube aftermarket 18k bezel. Gold wrapped bracelet with plated gold end link sides. Gen spec case made it a pretty straightforward build. ETA 2824 w champagne DW overlay. Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thank you kind sir. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Builder81 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. The movement that I planned for was the eta2824. I will take other members' advice about the genuine dial and will look out for one. My budget breakdown looked like this Bracelet - $ 900 from tnsdiamonds http://www.tnsdiamonds.com/rolexBrac1.htm(see $900 bracelet) TC V6 - $575 Genuine crown - $300 (ebay) Bezel $350 (ebay) Tc dial, insert and markers - $110 (this will be roughly 450 if I use the genuine dial) Mod fee - $250 (thoughts??) Total range = $2485 to $2825 depending on whether I use the genuine dial and insert. I will probably just use the tc clasp from the v6... With that being said - this was based on my initial plan. You all have given me food for thought so I may need to rethink some of this. What's most important to me is that the gold be real 18k gold, then next important is that the details be as close to genuine as possible within the constraints of my budget. I'm interested to see if anyone has an equal or lessor budget that can get me where I need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Builder81 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Also, I'm getting a tc V6 tomorrow and will keep that as a standalone piece. So excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagfan1 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I agree with the gen dial. I would spend the money for the dial, source a wrapped bracelet for now to help on the build cost you can easily swap bracelets in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenz Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hi Builder, Thanks for sharing your plan in the forum. I have been planning for this for quite some time n your list has made my work easier. In my opinion, the bracelet is the most difficult part to source. Any reference as to how good is the Tnsdiamonds bracelet? Is there any alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 There's a gen 93153 on rolex forum with Ss clasp and 401b end links for 700 pound, not sold and been there a few weeks, good condition, there's also a gen dial/insert for sale also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Its the older version dial though http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=391253 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=385480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netniet Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 If you want to use a gen dial, I would suggest to use a Yuki 3135 movement instead of the ETA 2824. This movement accepts a gen dial and hands without modding (aka. clipping the feet of the dial) Good luck with your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenz Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 thanks ronin for the info. Any idea who can convert a 93153 to a 93253? 93253 has a solid SEL and the price of GEN is very expensive. One seller in ebay is selling 3K. Anyone can throw light whether tnsdiamonds is any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Go the other way and have lug holes with the 93153,I've got the same on a mbw serti,plus my gen 16613 has the same set up if you need any pics,are you a member on rwi,theres a great thread on the 16613 builds inc pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 This is the man you want to get to build it for you, Misiekped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 This is the man you want to get to build it for you, Misiekped +1. He did my 5514, and I would highly recommend him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=197358 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueprince Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Build an older one with lugholes so that a non-SEL bracelet and SS clasp looks right. SEL bracelet with gold through clasp is too hard to source/get right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Good thread. I agree with the lug hole version, easier to source a bracelet, clasp and end links that would work. Plus lug holes rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenz Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks for showing me the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Shame as there was a unexpected bunch a few agos that all sold there Frankensteins, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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