abakan Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hello my friends, I am thinking to take the dial off the movement for realignment on my MBW, but before doing it was thinking to ask here that could prevent me from doing something stupid & damaging Do you know how MBWs and WMs dials are fixed to the movement, any tips on how to better approach a removal process? Thank a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hello my friends, I am thinking to take the dial off the movement for realignment on my MBW, but before doing it was thinking to ask here that could prevent me from doing something stupid & damaging Do you know how MBWs and WMs dials are fixed to the movement, any tips on how to better approach a removal process? Thank a lot The dials are glued directly to the movement. I know I have just removed mine today from my MBW 1680. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrington Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 The dials are glued directly to the movement. I know I have just removed mine today from my MBW 1680. Chris Hope you didn't damage it!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivia Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 The dials are glued directly to the movement. I know I have just removed mine today from my MBW 1680. Chris Oh my! That isn't good at all. A Glued dial on an MBW...who would have thought so? But, if you got a genuine dial, you would proabbly have to glue that also. So.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 No damage to the old dial whatsoever.....none....I am amazing.....however not so amazing when it comes to the case supports to hold the movement in place as I broke 1.....gutted now I can't wear it until I replace it. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrington Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 No damage to the old dial whatsoever.....none....I am amazing.....however not so amazing when it comes to the case supports to hold the movement in place as I broke 1.....gutted now I can't wear it until I replace it. Chris What case supports? You mean the movement clamps or the screws? Or the movement ring around the movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 What case supports? You mean the movement clamps or the screws? Or the movement ring around the movement? Screws are fine it's the movement clamps, I broke one so only one side of the movement is secured at the mom. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrington Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Screws are fine it's the movement clamps, I broke one so only one side of the movement is secured at the mom. Chris Come on guys can anyone help Chris out. He needs a movement clamp for an ETA. I have just looked in my parts box and have everything apart from one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shultz Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 @Edge Hi Chris, sorry it migt be off topic but your avatar is driving me crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Yeh mate no need to apologise she is gorgeous and what a set. I bet if she askd for movement clamps then you'd all come runnin lol. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsons Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 I bet if she askd for movement clamps then you'd all come runnin lol. Chris and you would be right. Wish I could help, Chris. I know the feelng when a cheap tiny part keep one from completing a project. I'm sure someone will come thru for you in short order. Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 MBW/WM dials shouldn't be glued directly to the movement, but rather to the spacing ring, per se. At least, that's how I've set all of mine up. Not really a huge deal to fit, but proper alignment can take a few tries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abakan Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Thanks guys for the insight. Chris, when I broke my clamps (seems like a weak part??) I asked The Zigmeister and he sent me for cheap. Ubi, do you mean there is a spacer ring between the dial and a movement? Is that how it came on MBW? Would you mind sharing a source of those in case I don't find one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 abakan, If you look very closely at my Schild 2055 (the one with the white datewheel), you can see the spacer ring I'm speaking of (little ring around the edge of the movement with raised bumps): The MBW's should have this ring- As should most of our reps with an ETA movement inside. I've collected a number of these rings which I use as spares from time to time (if the need arises). They should be available from supply houses, though I am not certain of what the p/n should be. Hope this helps. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 sorry fogt about the ring, that's right the dial gets glued onto the ring, the ring was attached to my movement so forgot about it. This shoul be on the movement so unless you lost it shouldn't need replaced. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Ive been struggling to attach geniune dials on non orig. movements in a scure durable manner. i ordered these dial feet from agthomas to fix my . together with these stickers they should arrive any day now, i will post some pics of the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stac Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I'm lucky enough to have a lathe and I cut my own "attachment rings" It's not difficult...just a little patience and filing for a good snug fit around the movement. A couple small dabs of five-minute epoxy on the ring...line up the center pinion and date window and you are good to go. I agree it's sounds goofy but it works well. It will stay secure forever but still you can pry the entire set-up apart to swap out a dial or service the movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shultz Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Yeh mate no need to apologise she is gorgeous and what a set. I bet if she askd for movement clamps then you'd all come runnin lol. Chris She's got two wonderful subdials on 3 and 9.... like a Graham watch chronograph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shultz Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Ive been struggling to attach geniune dials on non orig. movements in a scure durable manner. i ordered these dial feet from agthomas to fix my . together with these stickers they should arrive any day now, i will post some pics of the works. @slickdick I'd be interested in those dial feet, too. Where did you purchase them? I am just needing two pieces/ one pair. May be you can sell me one pair? I 'd be happy for an information . Stay well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris5264 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 This sounds like the recessed pin problem all over again. The asian copies of the 6497 put the dial feet in different places so, you can't put a rep dial on a gen 6497, at least I can't. Also, since the topic is on dials, any advice on the proper way to remove a 6497 dial? Should you turn the screws only a half turn to unlock the dial feet? Or is it something you just losen up by unscrewing a number of turns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 This sounds like the recessed pin problem all over again. The asian copies of the 6497 put the dial feet in different places so, you can't put a rep dial on a gen 6497, at least I can't. Also, since the topic is on dials, any advice on the proper way to remove a 6497 dial? Should you turn the screws only a half turn to unlock the dial feet? Or is it something you just losen up by unscrewing a number of turns? On the 6497, the dial feet screws have one side of the head cut; simply line this flat spot up with the feet/stem and it will come free. On the MBW's- The reason why a genuine dial won't fit is because the genuine 1570/5 movement has the dial feet in different locations vs. the ETA's. There is nothing compatible between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Ive been struggling to attach geniune dials on non orig. movements in a scure durable manner. i ordered these dial feet from agthomas to fix my . together with these stickers they should arrive any day now, i will post some pics of the works. Wow, great find! Thanks for sharing--I've been having a hell of a time w/ a couple Genuine Muller dials that came w/o feet. Are these from cousin's? I take it you glue these feet on. or do you have to solder them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 im going to use the dial stickers (3 mm round) to attach the the feet to the dial. but if that isn't gonna give me the durable feeling, i am gonna glue them. I dont think you can solder them, ihink the dial feet are plastic, but unsure, havent got it yet. anyone can order these like i mentioned from agthomas (www.agthomas.co.uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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