what movement is this?

[cavi]

I have a rolex explorer 1 that I bought a year or so ago but I am having issues with the movement so I sent it to my local repair guy and he is in doubt of what movement it is.  I thought if would have been a 2813 or 21j.  I want to buy the correct movement so it will fit right and so the hands will fit.  Also I see a couple of myotas on ebay that say they are replacements for the 2813, would they accept the hands I currently have?

[bill33]

It's an Asian clone of an ETA 2824-2 or a 2836-2.

[cavi]

so which one of those two will work to replace it?

Ok, does this mean that there might even be parts for this watch and it could be fixed or am I still better off buying a new movement?  If I go the route of a new movement I see a couple of genuine non asians in the 250 to 300 range, is it worth spending that much over 72 for a hong kong one?

[themannier]

Asian eta2836-2 to me 

[cavi]

So I read up a bit and apparently the 2836 and 24 are basically the same except for the 2836 has day/date function? vs only day?  But it also says that the stem height is different on the two, so How do I know which one I have?  Will a picture of the movement from the front help?

[DVNE]

a picture of the case showing the crown height will determine which movement you have but I am betting that you have a 2836-2 clone in there which means you can replace it with another. The 2824 clones are in slim cases with the crown height closer to the dial side

[cavi]

ok I will ask the repair guy to take it out and get me a picture of the case

 

[alligoat]

If your watch guy doesn't know that it's an eta or an eta clone, you probably ought to get a better watch guy!

[SSTEEL]

If its in an Explorer with GMT than you have a 2836-2 ETA clone in there based on the photos.

[automatico]

"If your watch guy doesn't know that it's an eta or an eta clone, you probably ought to get a better watch guy!"

Maybe.  Watch guys who work 'in the trenches' (fools like me for example) are far more likely to see an etaclone than a traditional old school watch mechanic.  My 'watch guy' friend works on vintage RR grade PW, Vacheron, AP, LeCoultre, Longines, Omega, Gruen, rolex etc (rolex only if you are a friend or relative) and has never seen an etaclone but I told him about them.  I doubt he has seen an eta 28xx for years except maybe in a Tooter, Mido Commander etc.  (I threw in Mido Commander because I have one)   

Many high line repair guys have probably never seen an etaclone, A7750 or Asian 21 jewel.  

Lucky them.  

[cavi]

that is the case with my guy, has worked for years always on gen watches , he specializes in rebuilding vintage watches such as my 50s bumper Omega.  He knew it was a clone, just not which model clone.