docthor Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Hey gents , I'm about to have me built a light franken 5513 and would like to see your opinion on my plans So far I was lucky enough to buy a Cartel case reworked by Rolojack which is actually on its way to me. Today I received a gen but refinished dial. Even though it's refinished I'd say they did a great job. I already bought some NOS Tudor hands and would like to have an ETA 2846 in there. Which bezel assembly shall I choose and would you guys say a TC crown and tube is enough or shall I go the gen route there too? And for the crystal I guess a Clarks T19 does the job as well as a gen would do. To be honest...I had both back in the days and I wasn't able to tell the difference...
Blindpirat Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Great looking dial!Where it come from?Sorry for off top. Sent from Hell
hologramet Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 If you're going almost gen-look.. Either the servicex look, and with a new T19 gen is about 100€, if you choose CWP "domey" to is about 50€ exclusive S&H. If you go the sensible route I would recommend Sternkreutz as I've found them to be better than Clarks "serviced" T19. If you chose CWP, pick up a couple of them while you're at it, otherwise a bit of acrylic will go by EMS. The customs x-ray technicians will go crazy trying to figure out "where/how the drugs are hidden". TC crown+tube, same thing. S&H... But if plan ahead for future builds it might be worth it. Otherwise You could always pick up a couple of v3 hands both LV and regular (to have in stock) If you go gen, I can help you with a non-greedy source for the service gen items. Don't know if the Phong bezel fits. The WSO is a sensible budget alternative. Don't know if helped out... If you need a Vietnam bezel assembly PM me. Take care mate and good luck! 1
jackflash Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 If you're going almost gen-look.. Either the servicex look, and with a new T19 gen is about 100€, if you choose CWP "domey" to is about 50€ exclusive S&H. If you go the sensible route I would recommend Sternkreutz as I've found them to be better than Clarks "serviced" T19. This! Don't go for a Clark T19, they distort the rehaut too much. Hey gents , I'm about to have me built a light franken 5513 and would like to see your opinion on my plans Today I received a gen but refinished dial. Even though it's refinished I'd say they did a great job.Well, what you have there is a 5513/5517 Milsub dial. With the circled "T" for Tritium. So really the case should have fixed bars rather than spring bars.
docthor Posted September 24, 2016 Author Report Posted September 24, 2016 I checked the Internet and found some pics of gen 5513 with that dial and spring bars. They seem to be rare but they exist...at least from what I found in the net.So with your guys opinion about the crystal I'm going to buy a gen T19. Bezel assembly from WSO and gen crown and tube.Many thanks for your input Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperware
droptopman Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 Really like this dial. Looking forward to seeing this build when complete.
jackflash Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 I checked the Internet and found some pics of gen 5513 with that dial and spring bars. They seem to be rare but they exist...at least from what I found in the net.Yes, a few were decommissioned and had the fixed bars drilled out to accept regular spring bars.
Sogeha Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 Wouldn't that have left signs on the case side? Aren't the fixed bars thicker than the normal Spring bar hole? I guess the 5517 is like the 5514 in that some people wanted a civilian version and had all that makes the watch desirable replaced in period.
jackflash Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 Wouldn't that have left signs on the case side? Aren't the fixed bars thicker than the normal Spring bar hole? I guess the 5517 is like the 5514 in that some people wanted a civilian version and had all that makes the watch desirable replaced in period. I've only seen one, and yes the thinking at the time was that the civilian version would be more desirable after decommissioning. And yes, there were still traces of the fixed bars visible after conversion. The only reason it was done in the first place was to enable it to be worn with a bracelet rather than a NATO strap. I'll post some shots if I can track it down again.Here's one on the Antiques Roadshow, not particularly well appraised by the expert though:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02dl7lc 1
edgematic1 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Posted September 26, 2016 That's gonna be a great project. Where did you score that dial? Gotta love MilSubs... I do think they should be on fixed springbars though!
interaktiv Posted September 26, 2016 Report Posted September 26, 2016 Case just arrived Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
QueTip Posted September 26, 2016 Report Posted September 26, 2016 10 hours ago, edgematic1 said: I do think they should be on fixed springbars though! This +1
docthor Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Posted September 26, 2016 Okay okay...you guys got me hooked. I'm going to put her on fixed bars Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperware
QueTip Posted September 26, 2016 Report Posted September 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, docthor said: Okay okay...you guys got me hooked. I'm going to put her on fixed bars Hehe I'm thrilled to see it mate.
docthor Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Posted September 27, 2016 16 hours ago, QueTip said: Hehe I'm thrilled to see it mate. Ja...me too I'm a bit torn now...with fixed bars I think it would look better to have sword hands. Gen Seamaster 300 sword hands should fit an ETA 2846 or?
jackflash Posted September 27, 2016 Report Posted September 27, 2016 Ja...me too I'm a bit torn now...with fixed bars I think it would look better to have sword hands. Gen Seamaster 300 sword hands should fit an ETA 2846 or?You can pick up some from Helenarou, you just need to trim the tail of the second hand slightly:http://www.helenarou.com/5517-milsub-super-lume-watch-hands-correct-sec-tip-for-e551728242836.html
docthor Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Posted September 27, 2016 So what's better...gen Omega hands or HR hands?Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperware
jackflash Posted September 27, 2016 Report Posted September 27, 2016 4 hours ago, docthor said: So what's better...gen Omega hands or HR hands? Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperware Not having compared them side-by-side I can't say. However, if you go for a gen Omega Seamster 300 handset you will still need to source a silver second hand, as the gen Omega is white. Personally I'd go the HR route.
docthor Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Posted September 27, 2016 I just read that lots of the gen 5513/17 already have Omega hands because Rolex hands aren't available anymore. My thought was to remove the white color of the seconds hand. But if the HR hands are good enough this would be the cheaper and easier way to go Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperware
docthor Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Posted September 28, 2016 Can't wait to have her ready...she'd look so lovely Build will be now... Rolojack case Gen refinished MilSub dial Gen 702 crown Gen tube HR sword hands Gen T19 WSO bezel assembly Custom MilSub bezel inlay ETA 2846
RickFlorida Posted September 28, 2016 Report Posted September 28, 2016 Sweet, where will you find the 2846? I need one soon as well.
docthor Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Posted September 28, 2016 Well...I usually have a "dealer" in Switzerland but he has none actually. So I have to wait or check the bay Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperware
interaktiv Posted September 28, 2016 Report Posted September 28, 2016 Well...I usually have a "dealer" in Switzerland but he has none actually. So I have to wait or check the bay Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperwarecousinsuk.comSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
docthor Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Posted September 28, 2016 cousinsuk.comSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Great tip...just bought one Sent from my wooden drums via Tupperware 1
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