Pugwash Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Here's the only photo of Slay I could find, I'm afraid ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I think Slay should stay. I also think we need a lederhosen thread: Speaking of Porn Hell.... Actually, maybe we could combine everything under one topic: The Porn Hell Lederhosen Thread, moderated by Slay? Have I taken this one a bit OT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 racist attitude? i dont need YOU to tell me what kind if attitude i have, definitely I'm not a fuckin racist. You seem to have some sort of problem when it comes to funny things. I dont need all this "you are warned!!!" bs from YOU. My comment was neither racist nor offensive. if you think otherwise, you have a sensitivity problem or you just need a reason to pick on me. It's no different from calling it funny when a jewish person is a lawyer than when a german wears lederhosen. Whenever Johny said this quote Entourage, NOONE called him a fuckin racist, because it is NOT FUCKIN RACIST. If I had posted a picture of me wearing lederhosen, and ANYONE would have been like "funny that you are german" - NO that would NOT have been racists in your opinion. First, because it was about me (and YOU dont give a rats ass what anyone says about me), and second because it's NOT racist. I got the feeling you just need SOMETHING to pick on me, and I wont give you that in the future. That being said, I'm outta here. See you in porn hell. @phoband: if you find this offensive and racist, please do me a favor, and block all your tv programs except bible tv (and especially HBO, because that's where Entourage airs and also Comedy Central!). and please, do not under all circumstance, watch borat. okay, this movie was actually made by a jew, still, do not watch it! @Slay You remind of the kid that got into so much trouble in elementary school that when he moved up to Junior High his reputation preceded him... He learned quickly that he had to work twice as hard too appear half as good... Reputation is everything my friend... In the last 6 months you've been warned about your behavior on this forum by: OffShore Kenberg Jonthebhoy And myself Might be time for you to look in the mirror... Or continue to say [to yourself] - "why is everybody always pickin' on me"... Enjoy your time away... If you choose to come back, try a different approach... Who knows, maybe it would help ya... Then again, maybe not... waddaiknow TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 For all those that were convinced Apple didn't have a leg to stand on in the trademark battle over the name iPhone, maybe you should read this: "An investigation into the ongoing trademark dispute between Cisco and Apple over the name "iPhone" appears to show that Cisco does not own the mark as claimed in their recent lawsuit. This is based on publicly available information from the US Patent and Trademark office, as well as public reviews of Cisco products over the past year. The trademark was apparently abandoned in late 2005/early 2006 because Cisco was not using it." http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=236 Now, this doesn't mean it's all over yet, but it does mean there's a lot more going on that it would appear at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 @Pugs I'm gonna nick name you "Scoop"... TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I'm gonna nick name you "Scoop"... Ear to the ground, my buddy boy, ear to the ground. Gotta go, that's another hot story boilin' the plates. Taxi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Ladies & Gentlemen... An exclusive to RWG... Here's a shot of Pugs "Scoop" Wash's Grandpa... Now we know where he gets his Scoop & Photo skills... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Here's a shot of Pugs "Scoop" Wash's Grandpa... It's Grampa McScoopy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I get the feeling this scooper has an RSS reader up his sleave... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I get the feeling this scooper has an RSS reader up his sleave... Oddly enough, no. IRC, AIM, Mailing-lists. This technology stuff is part of my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Really? I think google reader changed my life when they came out with the new version... so much less time wasted for dabblers like myself. I'm sure you are still probably more up-to-date though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Really? I think google reader changed my life when they came out with the new version... so much less time wasted for dabblers like myself. I'm sure you are still probably more up-to-date though I'll be switching to RSS when the only computer I use is my own (ie. Once I move to Scotland and go freelance) and when Apple add RSS to Mail.app (in Leopard, from what we hear). I'm not a fan of putting everything on http://www.google.com/ig just yet, so I need a single computer to do it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I'll be switching to RSS when the only computer I use is my own (ie. Once I move to Scotland and go freelance) and when Apple add RSS to Mail.app (in Leopard, from what we hear). I'm not a fan of putting everything on http://www.google.com/ig just yet, so I need a single computer to do it on. I am curious to try the RSS in mail.app; I found the limited functionality of safari... lacking. Ended up using google reader since I can access it from every computer.... I gave up a long time ago; google has my life in it. I have no @#%#$# clue why steve jobs is going to yahoo for email; I would be much happier if they would let .Mac die, embrace google, and integrate everything with google. If they would beef up .Mac with decent storage I would buy it for that - the 30 GB rumor was too good to be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedo Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 We like our 'old fashioned' type of movements in watches here, using automatics, why doesn't someone come out with an old fashioned rotary mobile phone? Now there is a statement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I get the feeling this scooper has an RSS reader up his sleave... did someone say pooper scooper? Well, clearly thats what apple lawyers told jobs - i.e. they don't have a case to stand on . i wonder how fired the person responcible for renewing the IPhone mark is. By the way - the Registration of the mark only creates a rebuttable presumption that there is a trademark in existance. Problem is, even if their registration is cancelled, it does not mean that they don't have a trademark right. They still have been offering a product under that name and have trademark rights we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Problem is, even if their registration is cancelled, it does not mean that they don't have a trademark right. They still have been offering a product under that name and have trademark rights Not continuously for the last six years. Did you see the photo they tried to renew their Trademark with after they started negotiating with Apple? No, really. They are that dumb. A sticker on a Linksys box. It's even outside the shrink wrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 No, really. They are that dumb. A sticker on a Linksys box. It's even outside the shrink wrap. OMFG... You owe me a new keyboard Scoop... That's hillarious... TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 You owe me a new keyboard Scoop... Like I say, they're dumb and they're going to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Like I say, they're dumb and they're going to lose. That box thing is pretty f-in stupid But, lets forget about any of that. If i started selling a product called iphone in 2005 (before apple offered one) then, i have trademark rights in Iphone in the US anywhere i sell/ market the product. So, even if the registration is cancelled, they still have a case because they had a real product out and advertised in 2005. If Apple's been working on this phone for 3 yrs. they should have made a registration then, once cisco's was cancelled, then apple's would have been superior and win. Do i think this is al about cisco getting a "cut" of Apple's iphone? yes, do i think that cisco has legitamit rights to the name - i think Apple threw the whole thing out on the table and said - Sue me, I dare you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 So, even if the registration is cancelled, they still have a case because they had a real product out and advertised in 2005. If Apple's been working on this phone for 3 yrs. they should have made a registration then, once cisco's was cancelled, then apple's would have been superior and win. Now, you're assuming that this was Cisco's Trademark in the first place. It wasn't, it was a trademark of a company Linksys bought and then Cisco bought Linksys. To defend and renew a trademark, you apparently need to show it has been in use continuously for 6 years when the renewal comes up. This isn't copyright or intellectual property law, this is US trademark law. Let's not forget that Cisco don't even have a case outside of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 But, lets forget about any of that. If i started selling a product called iphone in 2005 (before apple offered one) then, i have trademark rights in Iphone in the US anywhere i sell/ market the product. Yes, but Cisco released the iPhone in December 2006, after Apple registered the trademark (under the name of Ocean Telecom Services LLC, just to be secretive) in September 2006. Like I say, it's simply not cut and dried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Now, you're assuming that this was Cisco's Trademark in the first place. It wasn't, it was a trademark of a company Linksys bought and then Cisco bought Linksys. To defend and renew a trademark, you apparently need to show it has been in use continuously for 6 years when the renewal comes up. This isn't copyright or intellectual property law, this is US trademark law. Let's not forget that Cisco don't even have a case outside of the US. Your mixing a few things together - First cisco did own the company and therefore owned the mark to the extent that the company had trademark rights - there is no question about that. Again, - ok, here, this article explains it well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark#Mai..._and_genericide you can establish a trademark without registering by actually using it in the market place, the rights accrue whererver you sell and market it. So, there are 2 lines of argument that cisco makes 1. We have a registered trademark that is being enfringed upon. 2. Even if you decide our registration is defective, We have trademark rights that have developed because of our actua sale and marketing of an IPhone product which we have been doing since 2005 it will be a very interestign case that will never get resolved by a court. There is exposure on both sides to big legal fees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 2. Even if you decide our registration is defective, We have trademark rights that have developed because of our actua sale and marketing of an IPhone product which we have been doing since 2005 You're confused. It was released in December 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 http://www.crncanada.ca/content/peripheral...ot-apple-.shtml Cisco's Linksys, Not Apple, Releases iPhone The much-awaited iPhone arrived Monday, just not from Apple. Cisco Systems' Linksys arm stole Apple's thunder by unveiling a line of VoIP phones and accessories for consumers using the iPhone registered trademark. Posted Monday, December 18, 2006 I don't know where you get this 2005 release date from. Apple trademarked the term iPhone in September 2006 and Cisco sensing something's up branded a Linksys phone the iPhone in December 2006 in an effort to defend an already lost trademark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 http://www.crncanada.ca/content/peripheral...ot-apple-.shtml I don't know where you get this 2005 release date from. Apple trademarked the term iPhone in September 2006 and Cisco sensing something's up branded a Linksys phone the iPhone in December 2006 in an effort to defend an already lost trademark. I thought i read about a product they had out for awhile. even if it was december 2006 Apple didn't register it and cisco was in the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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