hologramet Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Very nice insert! where is it from?You really didn’t read like 6 posts up did you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teiki75 Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) On 2/23/2021 at 12:54 AM, hologramet said: You really didn’t read like 6 posts up did you? ok, Ruby, my mistake. The 0 of 30 looked different from between 2 pics earlier and I thought they were different. Edited February 25, 2021 by teiki75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) ok, Ruby, my mistake. The 0 of 30 looked different from between 2 pics earlier and I thought they were different. I guess it’s still early Initially I had a Ruby insert installed: On a recommendation from [mention=59902]hologramet[/mention] I swapped it out for one from [mention=47967]dlf[/mention] ... et Voilà Edited February 25, 2021 by jackflash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rower Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Yours is definitely my favorite 5517 on the boards. Here is mine: It needs so much more work to be acceptable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Yours is definitely my favorite 5517 on the boards.Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 I have a spare one should anyone wish to buy it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Comparison, rep above, gen below. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialyo Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Hello guys, I wanted to share my project story and ask you some questions. — I started it from a genuine late 5513 (white gold index) with a poor dial. With a detailed PNG I found on internet I spent a lot of hours drawing a vector picture of the 5517 dial and ordered a negative in Switzerland. Then I have it printed one the dial. That was the most expensive part but the good point is having the negative, I can make dial again. Insert and hands are aftermarket (found on eBay). Pearl is coming from the helenarou insert. I sent everything at another Swiss company to have BGW9 lume painted (blue-ish with a good intensity) and finally, my watchmaker assembled everything, brushed all the shiny part of the case and added fixed lugs. These last days I felt the will to improve it. — @jackflash you said your hands are coming from Yuki but your second hand is closer to the original 5517 second hand with a shorter part after the arrow and a shorter tail than the SM300. Are you sure you got it from Yuki ? Also, you mentioned DLF for your insert ; who/what is it ? Your insert looks great ! I had some will to take one at ruby but found yours (DLF) better ! Thank you ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Congrats nice build!I reshaped the tip of the second hand on mine. The tail was the right length. Dlf is aka Crown Art Customs and sells his inserts via ebay or Instagram as well as here. https://instagram.com/crownartcustoms?utm_medium=copy_link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialyo Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Thank you very much for your fast reply @jackflash. Already spoke with Crown Art Custom ; did not realise he was also know as DLF ! Nice work on your second hand ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GDorantes14 Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 2/25/2021 at 7:54 AM, rower said: Yours is definitely my favorite 5517 on the boards. Here is mine: It needs so much more work to be acceptable. Could you please tell us where did you get this beauty and what are the specs? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Guys, can you help me with this. I have a full build from HR and I love it. However, the bezel has always been an issue for me, it just seems too think and small. HR also used the plexi super dome which doesn't help (I'm not sure it's even accurate for a 5517). Question is, where can I get a proper bezel and insert from, one that is true to gen? I've heard clarks do a good 5513 bezel but I'm not sure it would fit on the HR case. I've been in touch with Phong who seems very helpful. However, be wants $1650 jjst for the complete case (no dial, hands or movement). It's a little out of my budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Jensen sells complete bezel assemblies on eBay:https://www.ebay.com/itm/234632327154?itmmeta=01HV12P6YXA996KEYPV3H2XSYR&hash=item36a12d2ff2:g:dJ0AAOSwprZlAhRK&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4PAcVLlgV5P6vzhJgeK2Trpke7zWoZPlRCpQscyeuOr3axyu%2BL3oCyizI956oBGBCxAaSDIolOX1nP13A69W%2FcXL7viOo2PQcu53jggL7ok34UPQgqg%2FUH2kp4QIoNl6wVnT%2FFqavGJ31Z7hbnR%2Bg4tO1VyKLyojxJnvWaJVarindnt69YMnB87FQ6TdzLdBT%2BM0zuBOo0pS99UllcG80avZm4mpCrwTLH4q4F0Vvs4ufykBuUzydOtkBa%2Fx4maxCJLd7ThSIVHhuc63HiRQHPz%2B%2BMFDoYZAFcJEaSxeTDDT%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8jv2KLYYwAlso the 5517 insert, however as mentioned over on RWI the numerals are too small:https://www.ebay.com/itm/234740639578?itmmeta=01HV12XAXPFEWVQRDWN3GYGFEE&hash=item36a7a1e75a:g:9VIAAOSwuvRjTulFThe closest to gen insert is from crownartcustoms:https://www.instagram.com/crownartcustoms?igsh=OWhrMGViOHJoOTBmJensen insert top, crownartcustoms installed:As for the crsystal Ofrei has a good selection. You’ll need to buy according to your case dimensions though:https://www.ofrei.com/page419.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Hey, thank you so much for responding and really appreciate your efforts. Do you know if the bezel assembly will fit the HR case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Do you know if the bezel assembly will fit the HR case? I don’t know offhand. You’ll need to check the outer dimensions of the crystal on the HR case to make sure the retaining ring of the bezel assembly will fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 On 4/9/2024 at 12:12 PM, jackflash said: I don’t know offhand. You’ll need to check the outer dimensions of the crystal on the HR case to make sure the retaining ring of the bezel assembly will fit. Thank you again. It may just be easier to go for the Phong complete case set up. It's bloody expensive but looks spot on. From all the cases, it looks the most accurate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mir36 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Just to add my two cents… for case sets check out seller Kuaredwatches on instagram, based out of VN. He offers full case sets for less than $1k. He was on eBay until a couple of months ago. I’ve ordered dials from him. On the 5517 insert, Jensen’s (the bay) are decent. I’ve ordered many other parts from him except the 5517 insert. The shape of the ‘2’ in ‘20’ is incorrect. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. I’m referring to the bottom left curve which leads to the flat line. Even from CAC, you need to watch the shape of the ‘2’. Some are good. Some are not. I use S Mazzariol’s 5517 photos for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 10 minutes ago, mir36 said: Just to add my two cents… for case sets check out seller Kuaredwatches on instagram, based out of VN. He offers full case sets for less than $1k. He was on eBay until a couple of months ago. I’ve ordered dials from him. On the 5517 insert, Jensen’s (the bay) are decent. I’ve ordered many other parts from him except the 5517 insert. The shape of the ‘2’ in ‘20’ is incorrect. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. I’m referring to the bottom left curve which leads to the flat line. Even from CAC, you need to watch the shape of the ‘2’. Some are good. Some are not. I use S Mazzariol’s 5517 photos for reference. Appreciate your feedback. What do you think of the phong cases (images above)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mir36 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 (edited) Case looks good. Although the ‘20’ in the insert is also incorrect. Just decide whether you want a: 5513 circa 1972 onwards 5513 with 5517 engraving on the lug aka double reference - 1975 onwards? 5517 - 1977 onwards? and match the serial you want accordingly. you also want to consider whether you want W10 (army/SAS) or 0552 (navy/SBS) engravings. For my project I’m using VN dial and 5517 case, Jensen hands, and a CAC insert w/ correct ‘20.’ I’m just waiting to source a correct hacking 1570 from the same period. Edited April 11 by mir36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 This is not about the milsub, but a '5513' type case can also be used to put a 'pre COMEX 5514' submariner together if anyone does not want to hunt down the $$ milsub case, dial/hands and bez insert. The fixed spring bars can be made using stainless steel rod stock similar to eBay item 284520669214 or a bracelet can be used. A short piece of SS rod can be polished on one end and pressed into a hole drilled in the case for the He valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 For reference - 5513 Comex with gen dial 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 "5513 Comex with gen dial" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 My apologies for troubling you all again but just wanted to give you an update. I purchased the case and bezel set from Kuared watches in Vietnam. Happy with those. However, I had to purchase a hand and dial set afterwards as the helenrou hands wouldn't fit the 1520 rolex movement. Kuared sent them and they arrived today. I'm not sure about the caking on the dial plots and wanted your views. Is this acceptable as aged looking plots or do I take him to task? I'm wondering whether my watchmaker can tidy it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 Overall, I think it looks reasonable, but the yellow 'patina' is an obvious tell. It is very difficult for a factory to produce a realistic patina. If the dial is offered with whiter lume, I would opt for that. While rare, I still occasionally see gen Subs of the period with whitish lume. So you could pull that off if the rest of the dial, watch & you look the part. Faking patina is definitely more ART than science. It requires ALOT of knowledge, experience, testingtestingtesting & hand-work to produce a 'natural' looking result. For a factory produced dial, I think it looks good. But I doubt it will fool a serious collector. Here is a macro shot of the lume on 1 of my gen Sub dials for comparison -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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