deepsea Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) I gave my fiddy to my watchsmith for canon pin upgrade and replacement of the hands. watch came, it is good but after a close inspection I found the following 2: 1. there is a little scar on the dial... near the center wheel... it is not thick. but let's say a strong hairline... nearly 4-5mm (it is only seen from a certain angle with close inspection, but now since I know it is there, it takes my eye in the first second when I look at the watch...) 2. and there are some dust under the glass, but they are also only seen under desk lamp or very bright direct sun light... I didn't add any photos because it is impossible to show the scar and the dust with photos... somewhat they are invisible on photos but I know they are there, DAMN. I talked my watchsmith and he told me the modifications that are done with hand will always leave some minor imperfections there is no way to avoid this. is it true? and what would you do? would you accept it as is? if I order another dial from my dealer, there is no quarantee it won't gain any scars or dust Edited April 12, 2007 by deepsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 I talked my watchsmith and he told me the modifications that are done with hand will always leave some minor imperfections there is no way to avoid this. is it true? and what would you do? would you accept it as is? if I order another dial from my dealer, there is no quarantee it won't gain any scars or dust never heard that "ALWAYS" this kind of work leaves some minor imperfections...that is not true!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 most dealers will provide a replacement dial for little (to no!) charge....just ask (it helps if they could include it in a future order).... deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polynomial Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 hey dude, get another watchsmith, this one sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Scratching the dial is poor workmanship, dust can be blown off, saying it's acceptable to have dust on the dial, is poor workmanship... Find another watchsmith. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 I gave my fiddy to my watchsmith for canon pin upgrade and replacement of the hands. watch came, it is good but after a close inspection I found the following 2: 1. there is a little scar on the dial... near the center wheel... it is not thick. but let's say a strong hairline... nearly 4-5mm (it is only seen from a certain angle with close inspection, but now since I know it is there, it takes my eye in the first second when I look at the watch...) 2. and there are some dust under the glass, but they are also only seen under desk lamp or very bright direct sun light... I didn't add any photos because it is impossible to show the scar and the dust with photos... somewhat they are invisible on photos but I know they are there, DAMN. I talked my watchsmith and he told me the modifications that are done with hand will always leave some minor imperfections there is no way to avoid this. is it true? and what would you do? would you accept it as is? if I order another dial from my dealer, there is no quarantee it won't gain any scars or dust I believe at least one modder will take care of the dust for you and blow it off the dial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 i had a better one my 111h have been to watchsmith lately for cleaning and oiling. After I recieved it back with said that all'd been done, I found more dust inside case than it was before, both dial and movement. I took the movement out myself to clean the dial, both crystals and movement. Watchsmith told me he had them cleaned in a special liquid that is ment for it. But once I took a closer look, I found out something I didnt suspect and clearly event havent looked at there was "I" letter missing in Panerai word on the movement and there was nothing in the bridge that had scale, plus and minus, under the niddle I sill have to wait 4 more days to get in touch with him and to clear this mess up. Wonder how that happend. There is absolutely no marks of those "I" letter and scale stuff on the movement. Like there never been any So now if I look at my movement I can see my watch branded OFFICINE PANERA anyway we both should look for better watchsmits, no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepsea Posted May 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 (edited) thanks for the reply mates... anyway I ordered 2 fiddy dials... my plan was I'd try the first dial by myself. and if anything goes wrong, second dial would be mounted by another watchsmith... I mounted the dial and hands without any problems and no scars,dust on the dial... fiddy is diddy now... BTW, I have all the tools (hand remover, tweezers etc) and some minor experience with this stuff... but... 1. removing movement, removing hands, removing old dial... 2. I checked hands and there are very minor scars and minor oxidation seen (due to they are not painted you know, golden fiddy hands)... 3. I applied sunshine cloth to the hands and scars & oxidation goes, they are like brand new now... 4. then mounting new dial, mounting hands, adjusting hands, made sure they are not bend... mounting the second hand was tricky... I used a verrry thin needle. 5. then removing dust from dial with rodico and dust blower. now everything's perfect with the watch... but; these took some SERIOUS time. and I'd have to check a few times for any dust after finishing the job. the problem with many watchsmiths is clear on my head now; a watchsmith cannot give me his hours and perfect dedication for a lousy $30... Edited May 5, 2007 by deepsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Congratulations! Just, try and do it in a home with three cats and a dog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris5264 Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 "but; these took some SERIOUS time. and I'd have to check a few times for any dust after finishing the job. the problem with many watchsmiths is clear on my head now; a watchsmith cannot give me his hours and perfect dedication for a lousy $30..." Interesting,,,,,I've come to a similar conclusion. With watches, some things really require skill and you can't get around that, but there are other things that are not that skill dependent but rather depend on patience and a lot of time. Dust on the dial or under the crystal is a great example, I spent about 45 mins this morning making sure there was no dust in the watch I was putting together. I actually took it outside in direct sunlight from various angles and had to take it apart at least 3 times before I couldn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepsea Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 I actually took it outside in direct sunlight from various angles and had to take it apart at least 3 times before I couldn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkdk Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 its no problem to change the dial yourself. Just be carefull when you take of the hands. they bend very easily:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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