andreww Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I see PureTime is now offering a "Lite" version of the Big Bang. Only difference is it comes with the 21k 7750, and no AR on the crystal. At under $300 this may make sense for a lot of people. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=48986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Especially seeing though we can get AR coating on crystals again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyster Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Certainly a more reasonable price, it would be interesting to see the Hublot experts opinion of this offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 An interesting development given the perceived value for money of the HBB. Why use the old 21.6k 7750 though? This version is what gave asian 7750s their bad reputation in the first place, which the newer 28.8k version has still not shaken off. So did they have a job lot lying around? Either way, it's still $300 for an even more unreliable movt The only way I'd overlook this, heart over mind, is if they actually made the most gorgeous HBB of all (and that's coming from someone who's not a fan of the HBB)....the Luna Rossa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I'll second that HBB Luna Rossa. It's fantastic, that's also coming from someone who's not a Big Bang fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWP Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) The Luna Rossa is second only to the Ice Bang. In the near future I hope they figure out how to equip these $500 dollar jems with more comfortable straps. One would think that they would spend an extra $5.00 USD to do this Edited September 10, 2007 by TWP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Personally I applaud Angus for taking this initiative, I do however believe that the manufacturer made a conscious decision to equip the watch with the old movement and no AR so that the far more expensive versions could still (in some small way) be justified. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Remember - The Zigmeister does do the modification to make this fit a 7750 Swiss - the hand pinions fit too. How does he workaround the subdial arrangement? You saying he will recreate the 12-to-3 transfer gearing? Really? Honestly I would be very surprised given his general (and logical) thoughts on these type of tinkered-with movts, although I admit I may not be up to speed on 7750 mods he has done recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 not 7750 but 7753 but a swiss valjoux 7753 cost $500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoesmith Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 How does he workaround the subdial arrangement? You saying he will recreate the 12-to-3 transfer gearing? Really? Honestly I would be very surprised given his general (and logical) thoughts on these type of tinkered-with movts, although I admit I may not be up to speed on 7750 mods he has done recently. What The Zigmeister will do is use a Swiss ETA 7750 but also use the transfer gears from the asian 7750 and a few other parts. This will make a kind of 7753 layout, but will have a recessed date wheel, but this is no problem on the HBB as it also has a recessed date wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoesmith Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 This is fantastic news!!!!! AR can be done via chieftang For Swiss ETA 7750 movements i can still get them at $300 And The Zigmeister can do the mods! I like it when a plan comes together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 This is fantastic news!!!!! AR can be done via chieftang For Swiss ETA 7750 movements i can still get them at $300 And Ziggy can do the mods! I like it when a plan comes together! Unfortunately I believe I read somewhere that Ziggy has used up his spare Asian 7750 parts doing this and was not keen to continue with this mod, someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvn Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 i don't think The Zigmeister will do that kind of mod anymore. I think i have asked him once before and he declined to do the mod. do asia high beat movement and ar coating justify the $300 difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 sounds like they could be onto something... since AR isnt a necesity to me.. and I have no personal experience with the old 7750.. i might go for this! I'll wait till a real picture of the watch comes out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankt Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Why would anybody in his right mind spend $300. on a watch with a notoriously JUNKY movement...??? :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC65 Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 i don't think The Zigmeister will do that kind of mod anymore. I think i have asked him once before and he declined to do the mod. do asia high beat movement and ar coating justify the $300 difference? It's not a $300 price difference. Not even close. None of these watches have the ceramic bezel of the $700+ rep HBB's. The 'regular' HBB on Andrew's site with steel bezel, 28.8 bph Asian 7750, and double AR is $428.00. Angus's 'economy' version of the same watch with steel bezel, 21.6 bph old Asian 7750, and no AR is $268.00. That's a difference of $160.00. Andrew's price on the 'regular' HBB with rose gold bezel is $448. Angus's 'economy' version is $288, again, a difference of $160.00. For $160.00, yes, I'd rather have the better movement and the AR. And there is no 'economy' ceramic bezel version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rxus Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I have to agree with Mike but I do applaud Angus for his attempt to lower the price on these ridiculous HBB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 And The Zigmeister can do the mods! I like it when a plan comes together! Didn't you find there is a "new" version of the 21k Asian 7750 in the IWC 3717? Do the hands still fit onto a genuine Swiss ETA 7750 with no modification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 true.. a difference of $160 on a $428 watch is not horribly signficant.. although quite a bit more appealing. I've read the stories of the 21k 7750... i guess it would be better to stay away from it at ALL costs... But doesn't someone have to be a guinea pig?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY0811 Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Angus is the man...needs AR for sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted September 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I've got no problems with the slow beat 7750. I've got a couple of them and have no problems at all. The 1st version 21k was apparently junk, but the 2nd version seems to be just as reliable as the 28k in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 If the hands fit a Swiss ETA 7750, I'd take it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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