bosk Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Looks like the MBW Patek jumbo is on Josh site! Can't wait to see the price on this one. -bosk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Looks like the MBW Patek jumbo is on Josh site! Can't wait to see the price on this one. -bosk What's Josh's site nowadays anyhow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 www.pc-80108.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tech Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Looks like the MBW Patek jumbo is on Josh site! Can't wait to see the price on this one. -bosk Josh does NOT sell MBWs nor does he have them on his website. MBWs are actually MBKs and they are made and produced in thailand. From my understanding, most of Josh's reps are sourced and produced in China. I have owned several MBW/MBKs and the quality is outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 I believe this is the same version on offer from another of our collectors, it is not an MBW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Are there two versions of this thing? Or was the MBW (or whatever it is called these days) not really a MBW at all.... that has happened before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosk Posted September 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 OK here is the Josh version: Here is the Gen: Notice that Josh's have the bi-level edge on the date window.....the MBW do NOT have this bi-leveling from what I can tell by the pics. Still.... it seems like Josh's version opens up from the front too since I see no way of removing the caseback. Josh version has sec hand, extra dot marker at 3:00 (?), and thick markers...still not bad. Looking forward to a review of this one. -bosk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Yes there are two versions. MBW from Narika and TTK Or this version from Puretime and Joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisik Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 ... Josh version has sec hand, extra dot marker at 3:00 (?), and thick markers... Also note from Josh's pics how deep crown is placed compared to gen , and they have missed a dot from 11 to 12, and from 12 to 1 markers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosk Posted September 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 MBK is still the way to go... Just a FYI....looking at the MBK version, dot markers are missing from 11-1 o'clock too (black version) and it suffers from the crown being deep in the case from what i can tell via pics. 3:00 dot marker is missing which correct according to gen. -bosk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasTTaP Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 how's gonna get the two version and do a side by side comparision??? Richard, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminvanbuuren Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 PP0044 - JUMBO Nautilus 42mm (So Called MBW) - Swiss ETA 2824 - Swiss ETA 2824-2 Automatic - Available in 9 Dial options - This is the so called JUMBO NAUTILUS 42MM MBW Edition - Sapphire Glass - OUR PRICE: USD318 thats the description from andrew's site.. why do they keep doing these false marketing? :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasTTaP Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 obviously, beside the dials, with are clearly different, I can't really spot the differences... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pix Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Tempting : I've learnt to like this watch after our members reviews some months ago (together with the AP RO). That make this unique Patek model a bit more affordable, even if it's not an MBK. Unfortunately still a bit overpriced : should be more in the 250 range. I found an Asian 21J with display caseback on cqout. Might be an option, although it's still expensive for an Asian movement and not as accurate from the crown point of view. Hope the closed case one also comes with this Asian 21J. It would do the job, as I don't expect such a simple movement to fail. http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3069803 Mods, delete my link if it's against the boards policy. Must be not too difficult for a watchsmith to remove the seconds hand and make it further more unique. Here's the non jumbo version : http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3018062 And guess what : the seller is from BKK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminvanbuuren Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 yep nautilus is a very expensive piece when gen.. if only we could get a really accurate one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkdk Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Tempting : I've learnt to like this watch after our members reviews some months ago (together with the AP RO). That make this unique Patek model a bit more affordable, even if it's not an MBK. Unfortunately still a bit overpriced : should be more in the 250 range. I found an Asian 21J with display caseback on cqout. Might be an option, although it's still expensive for an Asian movement and not as accurate from the crown point of view. Hope the closed case one also comes with this Asian 21J. It would do the job, as I don't expect such a simple movement to fail. http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3069803 Mods, delete my link if it's against the boards policy. Must be not too difficult for a watchsmith to remove the seconds hand and make it further more unique. Here's the non jumbo version : http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3018062 And guess what : the seller is from BKK. Check out the crowns. they are way of. if i bought all 3 version, i could mock up a pretty accurate one :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegrasser Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 yep nautilus is a very expensive piece when gen.. if only we could get a really accurate one You can get the gen for the cost of the rep. Have the rep in your pocket when you try the gen on and with a little slight of hand........bingo! You win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasTTaP Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 You can get the gen for the cost of the rep. Have the rep in your pocket when you try the gen on and with a little slight of hand........bingo! You win! I think this is Richard's main point in selling his book (witch obviously every AD should have read) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Tempting : I've learnt to like this watch after our members reviews some months ago (together with the AP RO). That make this unique Patek model a bit more affordable, even if it's not an MBK. Unfortunately still a bit overpriced : should be more in the 250 range. I found an Asian 21J with display caseback on cqout. Might be an option, although it's still expensive for an Asian movement and not as accurate from the crown point of view. Hope the closed case one also comes with this Asian 21J. It would do the job, as I don't expect such a simple movement to fail. http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3069803 Mods, delete my link if it's against the boards policy. Must be not too difficult for a watchsmith to remove the seconds hand and make it further more unique. Here's the non jumbo version : http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3018062 And guess what : the seller is from BKK. the crown of these ones are terrible !! hahahah really terrible!! i've got a lot of time ago the MBK one from a really good man .....( tnks another time leo.... you are in my mind...) the MBW one is different ( the case... the back.... the crown...) after taking off the second hand become a really good replica... no more modding required for me ( i could only think to change the movement with a better one...cause the eta inside have no soul....) try to find a better one... M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pix Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 You're all right about the crowns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff g Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I own one of the MBK Nautilus's. A beautiful timepiece. It has no screw down crown. The 'Swiss Made' is incorrect. It should read 'Swiss', like the fake of the fake'. Jumbo's are 42mm. Jumbo's have no seconds hand. 3800/1A's which have unconnected dots are only 39mm but have a seconds hand. The newly released 5711 are 43mm, have a seconds hand, but also have a sapphire case back and gold rotor. NONE of the currently released nautilus's are correct to any of the gen's, other than the 3710's which have roman numerals, and a seconds hand, and say 'Swiss' like the new fake of the fake. If absolute replication of the gen possiblities are what you are looking for, then you are out of luck. Best bet would be to buy one of the fake of the fakes, one of the MBK's, and then switch dials to the 'Swiss' put it in the MBK, and cut off the seconds hand. And of course it has to be the dial that has the unconnected dots, no dot at the three location, and it all has to fit together with a 'decent' ETA. Got that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I own one of the MBK Nautilus's. A beautiful timepiece. It has no screw down crown. The 'Swiss Made' is incorrect. It should read 'Swiss', like the fake of the fake'. Jumbo's are 42mm. Jumbo's have no seconds hand. 3800/1A's which have unconnected dots are only 39mm but have a seconds hand. The newly released 5711 are 43mm, have a seconds hand, but also have a sapphire case back and gold rotor. NONE of the currently released nautilus's are correct to any of the gen's, other than the 3710's which have roman numerals, and a seconds hand, and say 'Swiss' like the new fake of the fake. If absolute replication of the gen possiblities are what you are looking for, then you are out of luck. Best bet would be to buy one of the fake of the fakes, one of the MBK's, and then switch dials to the 'Swiss' put it in the MBK, and cut off the seconds hand. And of course it has to be the dial that has the unconnected dots, no dot at the three location, and it all has to fit together with a 'decent' ETA. Got that? agree for the dial but without the second hand the MBW one is more similar to the vintage jumbo and this was my intent....mixing dials could be a good idea... anybody know the price of these from josh? for the crown of this new one... it's terrible...i confirm for the dot problem could be interesting to take it off (as for the second one) it's not a difficult mod to make... cause is only painted.... however we knows they are only reps ...but my upgrading session of ony reps i hown start from the will i want to make them more similar.... the only facts is that it's better starting from a good case than starting from a wrong one...but if must buy two different of them to mix them to have one closer to the gen it's not a problem a little bit info for all jumbo 3700 haven't the second hand......3700 = hour/min 3700 is 42mm from '70/'80 has the movement projected by jaeger (same movement of royal oak...) 3800 is tiny 37mm ... it has a patek movement 5711 is 43mm is the new one has a differt case with glass on the back.... these are the gen 3700 jumbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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