bertieng Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Will a gen. date disc fit into the ETA28xx movement? Do they share the same spec? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 No. And even if they were physically interchangeable, the wheels are designed to run in opposite directions. So if you installed a gen 1575 movement's date wheel onto an ETA 2846 movement, the date would progress backwards (30, 29, 28.... instead of 28, 29, 30....). I would either leave your original rep datewheel alone or post a wanting to buy message in the for sale forum to see if anyone has an extra Watchmeister datewheel overlay they are willing to part with (essentially, a vinyl sticker with a correct (albeit somewhat pixelated) 1680/1665 font (with flat-top 3's) that gets adhered on top of your existing datewheel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Hey Freddy, While you're here--I recently acquired a Watchmeister overlay which I know nothing about. If it's a sticker, I assume I remove the backing? I didn't want to try before knowing what I'm dealing with. Thanks, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I missed the boat on those overlays, but do you mind me asking what you paid for it? Usually they are applied with epoxy or dial dots to the ETA date disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I got it thrown in with a MBW I bought from a member. To be clear, mine looks like it wants to be peeled apart--but I want to confirm that this is in fact a backing that I'm supposed to remove. Thanks again. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I got it thrown in with a MBW I bought from a member. To be clear, mine looks like it wants to be peeled apart--but I want to confirm that this is in fact a backing that I'm supposed to remove. Thanks again. Steve. Yes, you peel the backing paper away and then VERY carefully apply the overlay sticker to the datewheel. The 'art' is in getting that sticky (and dynamically flexible) piece of vinyl centered on the datewheel so that the dates appear centered in the date window of the dial. Unfortunately, there are no specific instructions here, it just takes time, patience and skill. You should know that some members have experienced problems with the overlay shifting its position on the datewheel within a day or 2 of application This requires disassembly and re-centering of the overlay. I have to say that when it works, the Watchmeister is a thing of beauty and my hat goes off to the crew that put it together. It really does look great on many members' watches. I just wish they would have been able to find a way to imprint directly onto a metalized overlay like the MBW to reduce the pixelation & shifting. In my case, the overlay shifted on a more or less regular basis (at least once every several days), and the same thing happened with 2 overlays. In the end, I gave up the good fight & decided to trade in the Watchmeister's beautiful flat-top 3's for the always centered (and properly serifed) round-top 3's of the original MBW datewheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Thanks! Apologies for hijacking the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Will a gen. date disc fit into the ETA28xx movement? Do they share the same spec? Thanks. Bertie I have a vintage overlay produced by Ubi, archibald, kruzer00 that I can spare. PM me if interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB7 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 I just got a cubic works datewheel for my frankenjust project and it has closed 6,9's and it looks like it will perfectly lay over the current dw in this 2824-2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 I missed the boat on those overlays, but do you mind me asking what you paid for it? Usually they are applied with epoxy or dial dots to the ETA date disc. There is no need to use epoxy, is a sticker and it takes skills to put on the datewheel. good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 There is no need to use epoxy, is a sticker and it takes skills to put on the datewheel. good luck with that A sticker? Was that really the best option? Sounds like a one shot deal to me. at least with the metal overlays, if you are off, you can easily adjust it until you have it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hello Bertie, the Watchmaster Overlay is not agood option for a 1680 Sub, because the mag is to high and the Numbers look faded and blurry... But for a SD they are nice no mag no blurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hello Bertie, the Watchmaster Overlay is not agood option for a 1680 Sub, because the mag is to high and the Numbers look faded and blurry... But for a SD they are nice no mag no blurry My understanding was that the lack of crispness on the Watchmeister numbers was intentional to match the printing back in the day... Because, as you can see, the numbers on the gen are also somewhat blurry and this is well replicated by their overlay. My 1680 with gen tropic crystal looks very close to the gen through the date mag. Gen 1680: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 My understanding was that the lack of crispness on the Watchmeister numbers was intentional to match the printing back in the day... Because, as you can see, the numbers on the gen are also somewhat blurry and this is well replicated by their overlay. My 1680 with gen tropic crystal looks very close to the gen through the date mag. Interesting. So if a person was lucky enough to have RSC install a new flat 3 date disc during an overhaul, would the printing be fuzzy or crisp as the new date discs? I've read that every once in a while, and depending on what RSC the watch is sent to, there is the odd flat 3 disc kicking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I just got a cubic works datewheel for my frankenjust project and it has closed 6,9's and it looks like it will perfectly lay over the current dw in this 2824-2.. Do they have a website, can you tell how to contact them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Do they have a website, can you tell how to contact them you can buy them here: http://www.cubic-works.com/watchtools/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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