alt.watch.obsessive Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 This auction is for a fake fifty fathoms: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=014. Does anyone know where these are comming from? Most of the sellers seem to be German or Swiss. The last one went for over $1200. It is not (as far as I can tell) using an MK II case. Nor is it franken (nothing original). I'd like one if we could get an honest price. p.s. In case the link fails, it's item: 330186333720
longshot Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 me too! i wonder what that movement is? the finish kind of looks like a generic asian auto?
alt.watch.obsessive Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Posted November 12, 2007 The AS has fairly crappy finish...I'm under the impression that the movement is correct (or at least very close).
PAMman Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) Seems to be a situation similar to the fake Seamaster 300. The 300s use a genuine Omega movement with everything else faked. Maybe this BP is the same setup. I understand that the SM 300s originated in Vietnam with a small back street jeweller being responsible for the whole operation. I sourced one of those through a well known Vietnam-based internet seller of genuine watches. I had bought a number of gens from him and he agreed to source a fake SM 300 for me, but I must stress that he didn't deal in fakes. Edited November 12, 2007 by PAMman
eunomians Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 One source: Hanoi, Vietnam. The original maker is a famous forger who has ripped off countless military watch collectors. I had the displeasure of meeting him once many years ago. I should've broken his nose when I had the chance - but he vanished before I got the chance. Either way, there are others hunting him down (he's been roughed up a few times already). Too bad, he could've done things differently.
chris5264 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 The fifty fathoms was really the first watch I became obsessed with but never ended up owning,,I think I might end up going with an MKii stingray, that really looks good if you haven't seen one. Everytime I see a post like this,,,,just gets the old urges going...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Posted November 13, 2007 Asked and answered! Thanks for the info. It is unfortunate these are being sold as genuine.
archibald Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 One source: Hanoi, Vietnam. The original maker is a famous forger who has ripped off countless military watch collectors. I had the displeasure of meeting him once many years ago. I should've broken his nose when I had the chance - but he vanished before I got the chance. Either way, there are others hunting him down (he's been roughed up a few times already). Too bad, he could've done things differently. Yeah, a waste of talent. If he would just sell as reps he'd have been a legendary figure around here, but greed always gets in the way. Anyway, I'd love to see a rep of the reissue, which is absolutely gorgeous, but I doubt it will ever happen. The factories will always rep what the market wants, and the market always speeds straight for the lowest common denomenator. Because breitling and Rolex have lots of ads in Sport's Illustrated lots of people, even people around here,fall all over themselves to spend 30% of the cost of a Seadweller or 40% of a Superocean instead of 5% of a 10 grand, equally reppable fifty-fathoms, even though all have the black bezel inserts, black dials and steel cases that everyone drools over.
PAMman Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 The BPs are high on my list also. I've just pulled the trigger on a MKii Seafighter which should be available in Feb '08. It should be a good quality watch at reasonable cost and will be a good companion to my Blackwater.
chris5264 Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 The BPs are high on my list also. I've just pulled the trigger on a MKii Seafighter which should be available in Feb '08. It should be a good quality watch at reasonable cost and will be a good companion to my Blackwater. Wow,,,the seafighter looks great,,,,will be hard to wait but worth it I bet. I'm not sure I would buy a blancpain rep unless I knew for sure the quality was really really high,,,
dadog13 Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 here is the link to MK II watches if somebody wondered what they were... http://www.mkiiwatches.com/WSWrapper.jsp?mypage=cd02.htm
eunomians Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 It goes to show you that good taste always seems to run in smaller circles. What I mean is that anybody can go out and buy a Rolex - because they have been 'told' to. But very few go out and buy a Blancpain, Glas
alt.watch.obsessive Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Posted November 14, 2007 Yes, I too have a genuine dial that fits a 28xx series eta. It will be going in something sooner or later
alt.watch.obsessive Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Posted November 14, 2007 Nice! The bezel insert cracks on all of them apparently. BTW, over $1200 on the fake already. Cheers.
panerai153 Posted November 19, 2007 Report Posted November 19, 2007 Seems like there is an inexhaustable supply of these fake BP Fifty Fathoms coming out of Vietnam. I would never buy a vintage FF without lots of really detailed photos that I could post on the Military Watch Resource (MWR) Forum. Several different models are faked, but the Plain dial seems to be much more common than the no radiations version. If you see on the back engraved MV7705 Run like hell!! Someone mentioned this guys wasted talent. Remeber guys he is reselling to dealers in Europe, primarily in Germany and Switzerland, who are passing these off as genuine NOS Military issue BP's. He is getting at wholesale, probably 2-3X what he could get if he was selling these as Reps. How many of you would pay 1200-3000 USD for a rep? That's what he is getting for these by selling as genuine. Just go to Ebay every few days and search Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, see how many show up there and how much they sell for. If you want an honest quality watch that looks just like the PB FF without the name,but with a warranty and resale, get a MKII Stingray. Bill Yao does incredible work, offers several different dials, several hand sets and three bezel configurations. And all for less than 600.00 USD. I have a great deal of respect for reps and rep dealers that are selling their watches as reps. I have nothing but contempt for those low life scammers who sell someone a rep as a genuine. Just my Dos Centavos Arthur
Watchmeister Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 Arthur- Great to see you back. Maybe I just missed your posts. I hope you hang out for a while. All the best, Kruz
Daytona4me Posted December 23, 2007 Report Posted December 23, 2007 Hi, Enzo is still in business, he and I remain good friends and to keep one toe in the replica world he has setup his small shop at RWI's sister site RWC. His sales section is here http://replica-watch.cc/forum/index.php?board=83.0 He is still selling the dial as displayed above. It is a classic!
Kdo23 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Posted December 23, 2007 @Daytona4me Thank you very, very much for your fast answer, I hope I can obtain such a Dial! Thanks again, merry Christmas and all the best for 2008!!! - Alex -
yellomen Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) Maybe you should read this entire thread... Edited January 30, 2008 by yellomen
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