freddy333 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Look what the Fedex transplant team just delivered for my DRSD And it came packaged in a very nice carrying case (note the flat-top '3') It would be a shame to disassemble this beauty into my parts box, so I am going to replace its movement with the 2846 from the DRSD during the transplant. It should make a nice counterpoint to my 16014 _______________ I have a question about the 1570 -- When winding the 1570, should the clockwise (winding) turn make a clicking sound or a swishing sound like an ETA? p.s. I see the Admin's have had a change of heart & returned the long-lost ratings icons. Yippee!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 My 1570 makes a clicking sound. I just happen to be wearing my 1680 today. I sure hope that's the right answer! Today when I put it on, I adjusted the time a couple of minutes- it's been on the winder for 2-3 weeks- and I screwed the crown down so tightly the movement stopped. So now I'm not screwing it down so tight- no swimming w/ this watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 My 1570 makes a clicking sound. I just happen to be wearing my 1680 today. I sure hope that's the right answer! That is the answer I was expecting, but not the one I was hoping for. The reason I asked is because I am hearing mostly swish when I should be hearing clicks. The first thing I do when I receive a new watch or movement is wind it. And with the very 1st twist of the crown on this watch, my heart stopped. It gave out that unmistakable ETA 'swish' that we are all intimately familiar with. So I quickly opened up the case, emotionally preparing myself to find a nice, gold ETA 2846 instead of the 1570 that the (well known) seller advertised. So you can imagine my astonishment & surprise as I lifted off the caseback to reveal this beautiful Rolex signed 1570. But the damn thing clearly swishes when its wound, a sound I have never heard coming from a Rolex movement. And we are not talking about a sound that could be mis-interpreted as a swish. No, this thing sounds EXACTLY like the 2846 that we are all very familiar with. So what gives here? Are the Chinese now making 1570 copies that contain ETA auto-winding gears? Any ideas? I am totally stumped here........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Afraid I can't help you on the swishing sound. I have a gen from 1952 so the movement is not the same. For what it's worth it clicks, not a swish to be heard. Anyway I hope it all works out well. I think it is fantastic that you found a movement with a flat top 3 to put in your 1665. I can't wait to see the results. It is something I plan to do one day. I wish you well with this and your other projects. Marvellous stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTR Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 You mean 1575 carrying case... Is this a hacking or non-hacking movement? Or is it an early hack that has been reverted to non-hack? Weird, but it looks brand spanking new and "rough" but should look used and old, but "smooth." Yaknowwuddimean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Another thing is freddy, you might consider servicing of the movement. My 1680 is 30 years old and my 1500 Date is over 40 years old- I've had them both serviced- the sub twice- I wasn't happy with the first guy who serviced my sub, so a year and a half later I had my new watchmaker service it. They're good movements, but they've been around for over 45 years- the original design that is. Anytime I buy a used Rolex, I always figure on having it serviced- it just makes good sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Freddy, this dial is really a beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Freddy, this dial is really a beauty! Thank you. And here is the story of how the watch came to be............... One day, the Flytimer & the 16014 went on a date to see 'Titanic' together. But they ended up missing most of the movie because they got freaky in the back of the theater Then, some time later, whichever one is the female (who can tell these days) gave birth to this And they all lived happily ever after.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Is this a hacking or non-hacking movement? Or is it an early hack that has been reverted to non-hack? Weird, but it looks brand spanking new and "rough" but should look used and old, but "smooth." Yaknowwuddimean? Hacking, but not quick-set. And I thought it looked a bit too pristine myself, which is why I mused it might be some type of new Asian-made Rolex movement? I have not heard anything about anything like this (yet), but if they can copy a 7750, why not a 1570/5? And if they did, aside from the 'swishing' sound & nearly pristine appearance of a 30-40 year old movement, it could have fooled me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Anytime I buy a used Rolex, I always figure on having it serviced- it just makes good sense. I may do that, but it is testing well & keeping proper time now, so I may wait a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellomen Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) Oliver might know the answer... It does look very new though... was it a watchbox-queen? Edited January 31, 2008 by yellomen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 It does look very new though... was it a watchbox-queen? I bought it from a reliable reseller & he did not have any history on the watch. But I am still waiting to hear back from him about the 'swishing'. Judging from the fact that the hands & dial contain yellow gold & it resides in a steel case with a steel crown, the movement was obviously re-cased at some point. And if it was re-cased recently & the movement was serviced at that time, that could explain its near pristine condition. But I would just consider its pristine condition to be a bonus were it not for that ETA-like 'swishing' sound it makes when its manually wound. I have never seen a Rolex movement, especially 1 of these, that sounded like an ETA. In its favor, the gears & (blued) hairspring appear to be made of the right stuff & it reads more like a Rolex (very stable) than an ETA on my timer readings, which I would not expect to see with a clone. So I am truly stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 One day it was "me" and "freddy"....and he gave me all his watches....and we lived happily everafter!!! Btw realy realy nice dials!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Freddy, when and if , one day, you will decide to sale that big blue . Call me please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethebest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Really nice blue dial ... I would not be so doubtful about the genuinity of the movement judging from what your ears suggest ... looking at it it seems absolutely genuine. If you look the visible parts of the movement they sing "Rolex" from every side. Freddy, when and if , one day, you will decide to sale that big blue . Call me please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 which I would not expect to see with a clone. So I am truly stumped. I'm not aware of any Rolex 1575 clones. There may be some aftermarket parts in your watch, but that would be the extent of it- it's basically correct, albeit 30 years old or more. There may some franken movements out there (pieced together from say a couple of movements), but if there were clones... I would think we would have seen them by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethebest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I'm not aware of any Rolex 1575 clones. There may be some aftermarket parts in your watch, but that would be the extent of it- it's basically correct, albeit 30 years old or more. There may some franken movements out there (pieced together from say a couple of movements), but if there were clones... I would think we would have seen them by now. I completely agree with you, alligoat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweattdogg Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Was that the mystery dial that was for sale on TZ a week or so ago? Looks nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 when and if , one day, you will decide to sale that big blue . Call me please! 'Blue'?????? Take the filter off your monitor.......the 1601 dial is midnight black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Oh, don't worry. It can be interpreted as both. My 1575 did actually sound like sand in the gears. After cleaning it really well and oiling/greasing with appropriate (Rolex endorsed) lubricants, it sounded more like a swish. But - the swishing is located ebsides a clicking sound. It depends on the age of the spring - when the spring is new, it is noticable as a more clicking sound - when it's older and more worn, only the swish from the clutch gears will come through. That's why a 28XX ETA can be made to sound like a 1575 - one would just have to properly - and I mean it - oil the automatic winding compartement with the correct oil plus isntalling a stronger spring for the retaining lever. Thank you Repaustria, but this I know. In nearly 25 years of collecting, I have never handled a Rolex movement that sounded like this 1. But I suppose it is possible that everything in the movement was recently serviced (as evidenced by its near pristine condition), with the exception of the automatic device module. But that sure seems like a stretch to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 But I suppose it is possible that everything in the movement was recently serviced (as evidenced by its near pristine condition), with the exception of the automatic device module. But that sure seems like a stretch to me. Or you just got lucky and so far with every service, the upmost care was taken while cleaning the parts. The old cleaners were pretty harsh and if one was not careful, you could easily strip the finish off the movement. The new automated Rolex cleaning machines time everything on a cycle. wash, rinse, dry, etc with no room for error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTR Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Far out question... Is the rotor turning when you wind it by hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Is the rotor turning when you wind it by hand? No. I thought of that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Or you just got lucky and so far with every service, the upmost care was taken while cleaning the parts. The old cleaners were pretty harsh and if one was not careful, you could easily strip the finish off the movement. The new automated Rolex cleaning machines time everything on a cycle. wash, rinse, dry, etc with no room for error. That just stretches the stretch out even further. Seems pretty unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Nice find, Hope to see it transplanted in your SD Case.....soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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