lanikai Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Is the Bergeon case opener for Rolex the only one that is acceptable ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I do not own one, but I have used one. it is nice... if you can get a good deal on one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I recommend the (much more affordable) LG Openall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I recommend the (much more affordable) LG Openall. Bergeon is 169 usd .. where can I find the LG openall ?? I can open all other cases with my thumbs using pressure but the Rolex is my Achilles heel thanks Avitt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 with your thumbs? damn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Here's a source. I haven't purchased anything from this shop, so can't recommend the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 with your thumbs? damn... It's just the tension and not the "turning" of the case back .. wonder if the ductape will work.. but it's between the LG and the simple but more expensive bergeon.. correction.. bergeon on ofrei is 159 .. not bad.. and the Lg on Ofrei is 75.00.. maybe the LG is the way to go. if it's a multi case back opener.. @avitt.. thank you.... I may go with the LG .. found it on Ofrei.. and that's just across the water on the West coast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelram16 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I made a 'die' with JB Weld, cardboard and a nail that opened most Rep, but when it came time to open my 5513 Gen it didn't work. So I got a copy of the Bergeon set on fleabay, I think it was around $40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 If you want to damage or distroy your case back go for the copied chinees stuff. The bergeon is great but a Horotec is absolutally the best. Carpe Diem Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Lancelot Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I use rubber gloves (like doctors use) and my thumbs. Never had a scratch and I never met one I cant open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I made a 'die' with JB Weld, cardboard and a nail that opened most Rep, but when it came time to open my 5513 Gen it didn't work. So I got a copy of the Bergeon set on fleabay, I think it was around $40 I had one of those eBay Burgeon copies as well. Not all of the dies fit correctly, and it had a tendency to slip, and mar the case backs...The nice thing about the LG is that the dies aren't hand held. The watch is held firmly in place, the die is perfectly centered, pressure is uniformly applied, and the die is turned around a centered axis. There's little chance of damaging your watch or back. Once I picked up the Openall, I sold off my hand held wrench set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodwc Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I use rubber gloves (like doctors use) and my thumbs. Never had a scratch and I never met one I cant open. Ah, the old ruber glove trick..................................paaaaarty time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I would say buy the Gen only.... Bergeon or Horotec only! These are your tools .... -MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I had a set of really cheap ones and they were rubbish, any of the ones mentioned will do the job. I was lucky enough to pick these up on the bay a few years ago for $40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolex001 Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 40$. Wow. Please, don't use these, these are worth a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadtorrent Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Stephane and others convinced me just to get the gen Bergeon 29.5mm die...and whatever cheap arms you want. I have a complete set with arms that cost about $30...and the gen 29.5mm die (the only one you will need Lani) was about $20. You have to grind out the Bergeon arm slot so it fits better...but that's a 10min Dremel option. The gen 29.5mm die is significantly better fit than the El Cheapo...but for arms...you can really get away with a piece of 5/8" or whatever the measure is(can't remember) pipe or a screwdriver...all that matters is the die fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkay Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I've always been able to open them with duct tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted June 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 OK.. thank you so much gang .. looks like the consensus is bergeon die or hortec .. sounds like that's what I will do then in the meantime while I'm waiting maybe cut out part of my Yoga mat.. (only use it for a prop to carry out of the locker room .. gives me an in with the women coming out of Yoga classes ).... and use ma thumbs.. thanks again all !!! R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MimiSars Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 How do you open with Duct Tape? Will this ruin the hologram? As for Bergeon, why not get this $35 one? http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Watch-Oyster-Cas...id=p3286.c0.m14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkay Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 How do you open with Duct Tape? Will this ruin the hologram? As for Bergeon, why not get this $35 one? http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Watch-Oyster-Cas...id=p3286.c0.m14 Put a 2+/- inch square of duct (or electrical) tape on the removable case back. Take up the slack on two sides and twist with a little downward pressure. I have not yet had a rolex rep caseback I couldn't easily open this way. I don't care about the hologram, but they have always stayed intact, printing and all, when I remove the tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MimiSars Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Put a 2+/- inch square of duct (or electrical) tape on the removable case back. Take up the slack on two sides and twist with a little downward pressure. I have not yet had a rolex rep caseback I couldn't easily open this way. I don't care about the hologram, but they have always stayed intact, printing and all, when I remove the tape. Is it like this? just cut a square of duct tape, put the sticky end over the case back, grab the excess that doesnt cover the case, push down and twist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 As for Bergeon, why not get this $35 one? http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Watch-Oyster-Cas...id=p3286.c0.m14 That one probably has the flawed die/s! You would then need to buy (at least) the 29.5 Bergeon gen die, and modify it to fit that opener. The one I got, all the other dies fitted OK, but the 29.5 was a POS. Personally, this tool now does what I want, and although the press type would be nice, unless you are constantly working on Rx, it does the job. Offshore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkay Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Is it like this? just cut a square of duct tape, put the sticky end over the case back, grab the excess that doesnt cover the case, push down and twist? Yep. pretty much like that. Grab the left and right sides of the extra tape between your pointer finger and thumb, push down a little with your thumbs to assist the tape with traction, and move your thumbs in concert. Let me know how it works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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