Nanuq Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 WOW did she come out nice! That would SO fit in my collection of old-timers. *cough* Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Outstanding. What is the story behind that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 WOW did she come out nice! That would SO fit in my collection of old-timers. *cough* Well done! My, my.......compliments from Tribal AND Nanuq on a home-brewed 6542 that was just a backup project until the DW 6542 got off the ground......& this watch is not even finished yet (with some of the best parts yet to come). I thought, for sure, at least 1 of you would pull this thing apart. Thanks again, for all of your help on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 I can only imagine and envy the skill and patience that went into this amazing project, freddy. Although I would not select this model for myself, I can certainly appreciate this watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Great "almost end" result Freddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 I can only imagine and envy the skill and patience that went into this amazing project, freddy. Although I would not select this model for myself, I can certainly appreciate this watch’s vintage charm and esthetically pleasing character. It must bring you great satisfaction to plan and perform these modification feats. Thank you. Truth be told, the GMT was never 1 of my favorites either. It was actually By-Tor's colorful & brilliantly-photographed GMT reviews that initially got me hooked. But, in the end, my inherent preference for vintage drew me to the 6542 & the original's Perspex (bakelite) bezel insert finally sold me. Now that I have spent a day wearing it, I have to say that it is an extremely comfortable watch to wear & the toned-down vintage colors give the watch a more subdued appearance than later models. All in all, I am glad I came around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Great "almost end" result Freddy! Wow, I think I forgot to thank the most important catalyst for this project -- By-Tor. Had it not been for your reviews & our email exchanges on the subject of GMTs, this project would never have come about. So Thank You, my friend.....You taught me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Wow Freddy, your project has turned out fantastic so far and nice touch with the Brevet crown. Congrats on a job well done! I've always loved the 6542. I can't wait to see the refinements you have planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 My god Freddy. That is a seriously ambitious project. I was talking with Tribal last night about it. Congrats on the result, it is really Thanks for keeping us updated. I learned a lot about this Rolex that I didn't even suspect existed on day Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmt Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Unbeatable, as usual, Freddy. Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Wow Freddy, some interim project. That came out great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 My god Freddy. That is a seriously ambitious project. I was talking with Tribal last night about it. Congrats on the result, it is really Thanks for keeping us updated. I learned a lot about this Rolex that I didn't even suspect existed on day Cheers Stephane Unbeatable, as usual, Freddy. Awesome. Wow Freddy, some interim project. That came out great Thanks all. The surprising thing about this project was how relatively easy it has all gone together. Those of you who have been following the story know the issues I ran into in getting the insert over the 'red ring'. But, although they came from disparate sources, many of the parts snapped together perfectly. The 2 remaining questions are whether the 27mm diameter replacement dial will fit the case (the original dial was 28.5mm, the dial that is currently in the case is 28mm & both fit comfortably) & whether I can successfully broach the proper handset (with small GMT hand) to fit the ETA. But if all goes well, this project should be complete (pending some later decision to modify the engine that powers it) by next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Stunning project!!! I am most pleased to finally see some pics of this beauty. As always, best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Stunning project!!! I am most pleased to finally see some pics of this beauty. As always, best regards Thanks Euno. I have not seen you around much lately. Anything new at your end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 My, my.......compliments from Tribal AND Nanuq on a home-brewed 6542 that was just a backup project until the DW 6542 got off the ground......& this watch is not even finished yet (with some of the best parts yet to come). I thought, for sure, at least 1 of you would pull this thing apart. Thanks again, for all of your help on this. Ah, it is not appropriate for me to pick apart your efforts here. I think it came out very, very well. Good job. However, when it's time to critique the DW project... THAT one has to be spot-on. Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Ah, it is not appropriate for me to pick apart your efforts here. I think it came out very, very well. Good job. However, when it's time to critique the DW project... THAT one has to be spot-on. Keep up the good work! Just to be clear, by 'picking apart' I meant positive criticism (in an effort to help improve the result), which is not only appropriate, but welcomed. But since I appear to be on the right track, I certainly appreciate the compliments. _____________ UPDATE - I ran into a bit of a problem with the crystal, which was attached to the case with GC Crystal cement. I kind of had a feeling it might not be strong enough & my feeling turned out to be correct. I accidentally tapped the watch into the side of a door & the crystal (unscathed) popped off the watch. I originally considered affixing it to the case with 330 epoxy, which dries clear, but it creates such a hard bond that I might have to grind the crystal off if I ever need to remove or replace it. So I ordered some crystal UV cement, which I think should do the trick. If anyone with experience with UV crystal cement thinks there might be a problem, please let me know & I will reconsider the 330 epoxy option. I should also mention that the tube I received with the Brevet crown was slightly stripped (it works, but I do not feel secure about the way it threads into the case). So I replaced it with a Swiss-made aftermarket tube from Ofrei, which fits both the case & Brevet perfectly. So if anyone else needs a tube for a 6mm Brevet, go to Ofrei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Well then positive criticism it is! The one weakness is the retaining ring. Call a few machine shops and ask how much they'd charge to mill off a slice of brass tubing, cut the correct inside and outside diameters, machine a triangular outside face, and press that sucker down onto your case to replace the retaining ring you have now. You'll be surprised how cheap it is. It will also lower the overall height/thickness of the watch, which is absolutely key to these pieces. Have them mill the outer diameter so it's less than a snap fit for your bezel. Then you can play with hex spring configurations to get the right "snap" into place and to take up the slop. You can also experiment with how far down onto the case you press the retainer to get the right bezel clearances. As long as they're tooled up to do the deed, have them make 10 extras and *cough* sell them here to recoup your expenses. The market exists and DW might like the impetus to do it the RIGHT way. Of course YMMV so DW will have to adjust diameters so it presses over the crystal like Gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Well then positive criticism it is! The one weakness is the retaining ring. Call a few machine shops and ask how much they'd charge to mill off a slice of brass tubing, cut the correct inside and outside diameters, machine a triangular outside face, and press that sucker down onto your case to replace the retaining ring you have now. You'll be surprised how cheap it is. It will also lower the overall height/thickness of the watch, which is absolutely key to these pieces. Have them mill the outer diameter so it's less than a snap fit for your bezel. Then you can play with hex spring configurations to get the right "snap" into place and to take up the slop. You can also experiment with how far down onto the case you press the retainer to get the right bezel clearances. As long as they're tooled up to do the deed, have them make 10 extras and *cough* sell them here to recoup your expenses. The market exists and DW might like the impetus to do it the RIGHT way. Of course YMMV so DW will have to adjust diameters so it presses over the crystal like Gen. Although it looks the same after I put everything together, the Silix case does not have a retaining ring (it is constructed differently than your gen). So I am not sure where you would put 1, especially since the only problem I had with the case was the lack of clearance between the bottom of the insert & the top of the infamous 'ring' (which has been ground down as low as it will go without losing the equally infamous 'lip' that the bezel requires to afix it to the case). Here is the case without the bezel Everything you see below & below/right of the crystal (which is currently held on with GC crystal cement) is solid metal (the case). Here it is with the bezel There is nothing inside the crystal & it is retained only by the cement joint between it & the front face of the case. Where would you place a retaining ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Now it's a BEZEL retaining ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Nanuq, I see what you mean, but I do not understand what I would gain by replacing what is there now (which works) with new parts that I would need to machine myself, especially, since I believe the watch would look & function the same as it does now? I think the idea is brilliant in theory, but it just seems like alot of additional work to achieve the same end result (the bezel & insert will be in the same position & the watch will look the same from the outside as it does now). Remember, also, that the height of the vertical ring is actually quite a bit shorter than it is in your drawing. More like this (& the highest point on the bezel is parallel with the top of the ring) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ah, mea culpa... I thought the "red ring" still stood up too high, preventing the insert pushing down far enough into the bezel. That was my aim. Well it's one fine looking piece! Wanna sell it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ah, mea culpa... I thought the "red ring" still stood up too high, preventing the insert pushing down far enough into the bezel. That was my aim. Well it's one fine looking piece! Wanna sell it? Sell it? Unfinished? With fingerprints all over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Those aren't fingerprints, they're wabi. You have another dial coming right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Those aren't fingerprints, they're wabi. You have another dial coming right? Yes, I am expecting a (slightly small) 6542 gilt dial (the current dial is an early 1675) within the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 I'll take it! sounds perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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