narikaa Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Well I awoke this morning to a PayPal dispute!!! As all should know, us dealers still in possession of a PayPal account have to 'tread on eggshells' to avoid any attention. Countless posts on all the forums detail the invoking of a PayPal dispute as anathema in this business. I read of many members forsaking this option - some dispite being out of pocket to the tune of hundreds of dollars. So we ask ourselves, what heinous act have I perpetrated here well I dispatched the goods the same day as payment notification received Notice of shipping sent via PayPal This on 30.06.07 After no contact at all this lunatic invokes PayPal due to non receipt today I immediately shipped a replacement this morning, emailed scans of the UKPO 'Proof of Posting Certificate' for the initial shipping, and asked for the removal of the damaging dispute. Despite all this he refuses to remove the dispute until he receives the goods (even though he will in all likelihood end up with both deliveries) How much is in contention here.........a box full of the latest 7750s?........a clutch of expensive Paneraii..... Good Lord no........... A FRIGGING £5 LINK PIN TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So one and all Deal with this clown at your peril Sam268 N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005SUBMARINER Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 (edited) i realy belive that RWG has to create a BLACK LIST of members who's start trouble for the forum memberes as well as the dealers .. good luck ! Edited July 19, 2006 by 2005SUBMARINER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Check the IP match and ban that idiot from all replica forums... rather sooner than later. What an ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyclmbr Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 i realy belive that RWG has to create a BLACK LIST of members who's start trouble for the forum memberes as well as the dealers .. good luck ! I agree. I don't know how it could be done to make sure those with a real issue or problem aren't retaliated against, and I'm not sure if it would impact the fly-by-nighters who come here only to grab a quick rollie, but we certainly need to consider something. Narikaa's efforts here go along way in identifying someone, but what's to stop this person from reregistering under a different name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 How stupid and egoistic can one be. Lets give sam the room to speak up for himself and explain why he did this stupid act. After that we will never speak to him again cause you can never justify a paypal dispute over 5 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwai02 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 added to blacklist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonystyle Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Having good buyers is just as important as us having good sellers. Some vendors will probably agree that there is a small minority of buyers who, in the end, are not worth selling to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkerouac Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Perhaps I'm being paranoid on behalf of our dealers. But could this situation be a deliberate setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkatbamna Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 What an idiot. I agree that it could also be a set up. Be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linder Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 If I was wanting to set someone up I would order their cheapest rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Paypal is still the most convenient method of payment for many, and it irritates the crap out of me when this type of thing happens. We should really set up some kind of dealer fund for when something like this happens, although I know it isn't lost fund but lost time and paypal aggravation that really costs the seller. PLease reveal this jerks IP address too...and let it be banned from all rep forums. Heck, even a couple hundred dollars is a gamble when buying a rep. you know that, and take a risk. i am surprised most of the dealers will resend more goods even when customs intercepts a delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher71 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Unreal...a complete assclown. (but a dealer fund? surely you jest category5...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr81 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 An assclown with an asshat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 @Narikaa.....thanks for the heads-up....he's now on my blacklist.......I have no wish to deal with these kind of people.......I also have a Paypal dispute with another member....albeit for a higher amount.......but I'll refrain from naming at this point....but will say that i have discussed him with 3x other dealers and made them aware of the potential danger of dealing with him.....! As for newbies and their potential to create problems with PP et al.......that's why I now won't offer PP to new members....WU only......until they've proven themselves......has to be a 2 way street....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 grief... I hope the dealers have some sort of email list with each other going so they can pass around paypal, shipping, etc info on clowns like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 An assclown with an asshat. Sorry narika. worse and worse here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 As for newbies and their potential to create problems with PP et al.......that's why I now won't offer PP to new members....WU only......until they've proven themselves......has to be a 2 way street....! This sounds reasonable. Why can't we make a blacklist of idiots who constantly cause trouble? It's not just the dealers who suffer from this, but also potentially the forum members who trade watches. Remember that imbecile who wrote "Replica Panerai" on the return shipment back to EL? You can be a clueless newbie... and make newbie mistakes, but being a braindead, lobotomized fucktard is a different thing. I'm all for a public blacklist... just do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsons Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 (edited) Very sorry to her this Reg. I hope this #!%&*@ comes to his senses and strightens out this sitiation pronto. However, nothing changes the fact that this chap cannot be trusted by anyone on our forums. I believe you're right that this chap has ended up with both of your shipments. I was going to suggest a payment system that would help eliminate such proplems in the future but Neil has beat me to the punch line. Regards, Jet Edited July 20, 2006 by Jetsons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Unreal...a complete assclown. (but a dealer fund? surely you jest category5...) I suggested this idea in an earlier thread by Eddielee.* It was not in jest. I see a modest $10.00 membership fee to RWG as a totally win-win arrangement: these funds could be set aside to compensate any dealer who suffers a major loss due to member stupidity or malice. The current RWG membership of 2,236 translates into a fund of over $20,000 - certainly more than enough to offer compensation for incidents over a given year. Any excedants after a given year could be channeled back into the forum for upkeep and sundry expenses. Hardly rocket-science, and emminently feasible. As for the members who might refuse the idea of a $10.00 contribution....well, there are still several other forums which offer free lunches. On one hand, it could serve to remind the people who zip through here looking for a quick Rolex fix - contributing nothing and simply taking advantage of a free information source - that RWG was not created as a personal shopping service for people with absolutely no interest in the community, not to mention the subject of replica watches itself. On another, it would be a painless way of testifying our loyalty and appreciation towards our suppliers - without whom our activities and interactions would be extremely limited. The idea was floated several weeks ago with no reaction from the administration - which is not to imply a criticism as much as a constatation. It would extremely interesting (at least for me - and I rather doubt that I'm the only one who feels concerned by the dealers' repeated problems with rogue or otherwise idiot members) if all concerned (members, dealers and the administration) were to open a thread to at least discuss this possibility. * http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=8032 Any similarities between the vapid hand-wringing and outraged responses in both threads is unfortunately not a question of co-incidence. Talk is always cheaper than putting your money where your mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebakanezzar Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 How much is in contention here.........a box full of the latest 7750s?........a clutch of expensive Paneraii..... Good Lord no........... A FRIGGING £5 LINK PIN TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So one and all Deal with this clown at your peril Sam268 N OMG dude! that is sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005SUBMARINER Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 in addition to a RWG black list , RWG should have some kind of RWG court ! where a dispute like this one would go to the rwg court hear both sides & let the RWG members vote the out come wheather we black list him & cancel his or her membership or allow him or her to continue to enter RWG .. JUST A THOUGHT GUYS .. TAKE EM TO RWG COURT ! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramman Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I've dealt with Reg & can honestly say that it was one of the most professional transactions that i've encountered to date. Blacklist the bastard!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwai02 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 (edited) $5 is a lot to this guy, He can pay like 3 or 4 auctions. lol http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...p;userid=sam268 maybe the same guy? http://applemates.com/american-personals/t...an/?nick=Sam268 Edited July 19, 2006 by cwai02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narikaa Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 $5 is a lot to this guy, He can pay like 3 or 4 auctions. lol http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...p;userid=sam268 maybe the same guy? http://applemates.com/american-personals/t...an/?nick=Sam268 Wrong guy....my headache is a Canuck not UK based . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 @All members.......please exercise a little restraint here......calling for the banning / beheading of a member is no more acceptable than putting dealers in the same position......! We dealers now have a dealer section where we can discuss these matters.......dealers should have access to the same information that members have......so calls for the ostracisation of a member on an open thread like this....isn't really the way to go about it.....its best to let us sort out these situations.....which we now can do.....courtesy of the Dealer Area....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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