yachtmaster Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I'm getting a 1570 movement and was wondering if this will fit the MBW MBK 1680's case? Will I need something to hold it in place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyd3 Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I'm getting a 1570 movement and was wondering if this will fit the MBW MBK 1680's case? Will I need something to hold it in place? The search button is your friend The movement will not fit with some adjustment (grinding) to the case ... it is not for the faint of heart. I would recommend buying the correct case from Phong. Oh, almost forgot ... the dial won't fit either. Having fun yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I have never done a 1680, but both my MBW 5514 (left) & MBW DRSD (right) are powered by 15xx calibres The gen 1680 & 5513/4 all share the same case (only the engravings are different) &, as far as I know, the MBW versions of these Subs similarly share the same case (in addition to the 5514, I also have an MBW 5513 case). Assuming your 1570 comes with the 2 case screws (you screw them in to install & screw them out to lock the movement into the case), you will need to grind out a 1/2" hump from the inner wall of the case (at approximately 9) to fit 1 of the case screws down into the case As long as you are using a gen dial (or a 27mm aftermarket dial that is made to fit a gen case), you should not have too many problems. 1 caveat is that I recently read a post by another member (I cannot recall who) suggesting that MBW has redesigned their cases & this member ran into problems with 1 of them. The poster also mentioned that Eurotimez told him that he was still able to get MBWs based on the older case. I do not recall the exact post, so I would recommend you search it out or contact Eurotimez for details since most of my MBW cases are more than 2 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Freddy, What are your MBW case numbers? From http://www.rwg.cc/members/serial-number-MB...bw+case+numbers 1665 MBW Single Red MM 5790188 Stainless Steel Registered Design 1665 1665 MBW Double Red MM 5790188 Stainless Steel Registered Design 1665 1665 Great White MM 5789899 Stainless Steel Registered Design 1665 I am going down an almost exact path as your DRSD, and have the 5790188 MBW. (My Clark Super t-39 arrived today ). As far as dial's go, in shopping ND, Yuki, etc, it looks like most SD dials come in at 26.5mm. Is yours 27? -Ronin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 1665 DRSD - 5790210 5514 - 2950417 I believe both dials (which are made to fit the proper gen calibre) are approximately 27mm & they fit the MBW cases properly. However, I do not have any loose extras to verify measurements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Interesting, a 4th MBW SN: I will pop mine open in the next week and measure the SRSD dial that came with it for grins. -Ronin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polexpete Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 The gen 1680 & 5513/4 all share the same case (only the engravings are different) &, as far as I know, the MBW versions of these Subs similarly share the same case (in addition to the 5514, I also have an MBW 5513 case). Hey guys, actually the 1680 and 5513 cases are different in that the 5513 dial is smaller than the 1680 dial. The MBW sub case is based upon the 5513 meaning that if you use a gen spec 1680 dial for the 1570 it will need to be trimmed to fit the MBW case. This means the dial markers become shorter and is a dead giveaway. IMHO building a 1680 with a gen 1570 means investing in a Phong case or build a 5513. Cheers Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 actually the 1680 and 5513 cases are different in that the 5513 dial is smaller than the 1680 dial. I think you may be right about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtmaster Posted March 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 wow you guys are great and know so much! So phong cases will fit without any grinding or modding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polexpete Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 wow you guys are great and know so much! So phong cases will fit without any grinding or modding? That is correct Cheers P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjfesq Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 What's a Phong case going for these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismaelmv Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 What's a Phong case going for these days? $1250 for the 1680 case can the phong case be used with eta movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertieng Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 100% no. Phong case doesn't mean will give you a 100% fit without any mods either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtmaster Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) Thanks everyone, Im getting a NDTrading case woohoo. Freddy333 you really are a walking rolex bible. thanks Edited March 10, 2009 by yachtmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertieng Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Bear in mind you still have to mod the inner part of the case to get the gen. Rolex movement properly fit. I have experience with a few of their cases already with the same needs of mooding. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I have the same 5514 case with working HEV. Almost done mine.. just need to send the dial somewhere to get it aged. I have a nice NDtrading white sub dial i may install instead. Then it will be a 5514 with white submariner service dial. My white sub dial is already modded. I would just have to mod the feet to fit my 2846 ETA movement... dizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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