RWG Technical Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Not sure how I missed this one. Well done Francisco, lots of hours went into doing this project, and it does seem to require very specialized tooling and skills to get it done. Good job documenting the process, it allows others to see how much time, skill, and effort is required to do what at first seems to be a simple task...make a spacer ring. Thanks so much for doing this up and showing such great detail, you set a high standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Not sure how I missed this one. Well done Francisco, lots of hours went into doing this project, and it does seem to require very specialized tooling and skills to get it done. Good job documenting the process, it allows others to see how much time, skill, and effort is required to do what at first seems to be a simple task...make a spacer ring. Thanks so much for doing this up and showing such great detail, you set a high standard. Thanks friend. You know that working with the lathe takes its time. BTW, you have a new name... Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Here a picture of the sandwich of DWs: Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I posted something similar to this idea here: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?s=&...st&p=639537 Fantastic to see it actually works! Amazing work as always Francisco I have a feeling this mod may be too time consuming and expensive to offer on the boards maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I have a feeling this mod may be too time consuming and expensive to offer on the boards maybe? I think some people is trying to offer the mod. About myself, I should find a faster way of manufactuing the parts. Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I think some people is trying to offer the mod. About myself, I should find a faster way of manufactuing the parts. Francisco Yes, I think if the spacer ring can be made with the same exact tolerances, in volume and fast, then you could sell that individual part on the boards. It would then be up to each member to create the sandwich date wheel with there local modder..... Great stuff, it will make such a big difference to many watches. Do we have one installed in a watch yet? To see what it looks like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Yes, I think if the spacer ring can be made with the same exact tolerances, in volume and fast, then you could sell that individual part on the boards. It would then be up to each member to create the sandwich date wheel with there local modder..... Great stuff, it will make such a big difference to many watches. Do we have one installed in a watch yet? To see what it looks like? I have one Panerai that I would like to mod. But as you know, only good results can be achieved with a Lello DW, not with a black ETA 7750 DW. In a couple of days I will begin to research how to offer the mod. Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siesta181 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Thanks really good news Francisco. Thanks for taking this on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 We were also discussing this idea here http://www.rwg.cc/members/Navitimer-date-fix-t97183.html Glad to see it implemented and that the concept actually work. Well done! Only question for me now is how to service the movement if you need to? Is it possible to disassemble the date ring in this arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadtorrent Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Only question for me now is how to service the movement if you need to? Is it possible to disassemble the date ring in this arrangement? Using the small amount of glue (even epoxy) shouldn't be an issue in removal. Obviously glue would have to be used again for reinstall. The Zigmeister has used epoxy on hands where pinching won't work without difficulty and tested removal and re-install as well. Mind you...I'm not the watchmaker doing the work...so only their QUALIFIED experience would be the true answer...but again, given how glue is used even on datewheel overlays (that I have experience with), removal and reinstall is not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Pretty amazing work. Some tight and precise tolerances there to make it work.... Would probably be enouggh to make me want to tear my hair out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 We were also discussing this idea here http://www.rwg.cc/members/Navitimer-date-fix-t97183.html Glad to see it implemented and that the concept actually work. Well done! Only question for me now is how to service the movement if you need to? Is it possible to disassemble the date ring in this arrangement? As I wrote in the tuto, I used Hypo Cement for glueing the top DW + ring to the bottom DW, i. e., a "soft" glue. In addition, following picture shows that I employed only 4 small drops of glue: On the other hand, I employed many drops of expoxy, a "hard" glue to fasten the ring to the top DW. Therefore, the mod (top DW + ring) can be easily removed. Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWATCH Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 That's just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 As I wrote in the tuto, I used Hypo Cement for glueing the top DW + ring to the bottom DW, i. e., a "soft" glue. In addition, following picture shows that I employed only 4 small drops of glue: On the other hand, I employed many drops of expoxy, a "hard" glue to fasten the ring to the top DW. Therefore, the mod (top DW + ring) can be easily removed. Francisco Nice use of materials. Clever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackR Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 four words....precision plastic injection molding... i'm certainly not an expert in this field, but it seems to me that the metal machined ring could be used to make a form where these rings could be produced thru precision plastic injection molding...can't be much to make the mold/tool to produce this ring...and then you could simply crank them out for a very low cost...amortizing the mold/tooling cost, these could be produced rather inexpensively... i may also post this comment in the watchmaking section... amazing work to make that ring, Francisco! thoughts/comments...R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 four words....precision plastic injection molding... i'm certainly not an expert in this field, but it seems to me that the metal machined ring could be used to make a form where these rings could be produced thru precision plastic injection molding...can't be much to make the mold/tool to produce this ring...and then you could simply crank them out for a very low cost...amortizing the mold/tooling cost, these could be produced rather inexpensively... i may also post this comment in the watchmaking section... amazing work to make that ring, Francisco! thoughts/comments...R Thanks! I answer there... Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Wow,what a fantastic Tuto and incredible craftmanship. That's really a fantastic mod Thank you for that Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usil Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Amazing work. Skills and tools make this a profesional solution. Maybe plastic or teflon could be used for the ring. You could not count the number of watches people would order kits for this mod. Usil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraExtra Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Wow. Very nice tutorial. Looking forward for the mod offering. I have 2 Breitlings already in mind - World and Legende Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balosch Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Any news on this so far??? THX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Any news on this so far??? THX I am still thinking of offering or not this mod. The problem is the cost of manufacturing and setting. Too expensive now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Boy Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Why does it have to be a ring? Surely you could use a series of posts, which would be easier to mass make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joint05 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 please!!!! i need that ring ! that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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