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The TAG Link Chrono datewheel is close enough, from what I gather. It's closer than that of the BB.

Apple registered it in September 2006, three months before Cisco tried to revive their Trademark. Prior to that, the company Cisco bought had an iPhone that they discontinued in 1999 or 2000. I'm not saying it's 100% certain Cisco has lost this battle (I believe they have, however) but it's definitely not a clear-cut victory for them either. Just to clarify, here's a timeline of events: 1997, Infogear releases the iPhone. 1999, Infogear trademarks the term iPhone. 2000, Cisco buys Infogear. They discontinue the iPhone. 2005, The iPhone trademark expires. Cisco has 6 months to renew it. 2006, May, Two weeks before the six months is up, Cisco renews the trademark using the photo I posted earlier. 2006, September, Apple registers the trademark iPhone through a dummy company called Ocean Telecom Services LLC. 2006, December, Cisco rebrands a Linksys phone the iPhone. 2007, January, Apple announces the iPhone. The thorn in Cisco's side is the fact that they didn't actually have a product called iPhone for the entirety of their ownership of the trademark and didn't release one inside the renewal period. They now have to go into court defending a trademark after the fact when they didn't adequately defend during it's lifetime.

Apart from the datewheel everyone mentioned?

Superb. You're making me want to dig out my pics of my bro's gen 45mm Orange PO. I had a gen 45mm Black PO on my wrist yesterday in anticipation of my rep that's arriving this week, and I was shocked that the AR didn't seem as visible as on my Bro's orange. It may have just been the lighting though. Still, a stunner, I hope you keep it for a long time and enjoy it as it should be enjoyed.

No, take the Link Chrono. It's closer to gen. It's discussed in this thread by people who own one and have compared. It's good, but it's not perfect.

http://www.crncanada.ca/content/peripheral...ot-apple-.shtml I don't know where you get this 2005 release date from. Apple trademarked the term iPhone in September 2006 and Cisco sensing something's up branded a Linksys phone the iPhone in December 2006 in an effort to defend an already lost trademark.

You're confused. It was released in December 2006.

You're kidding, right? The BB is good, but it's not a 1:1 copy. Without even looking at the rotor on the back you can tell it's a rep, apparently. I'm no expert, but copying a $500 watch has to be a lot easier to do than copying a $8000 watch.

It should look nothing like any of them.

I've just got informed that mine will be in the post tomorrow, so I'll also be taking some snaps very soon. I can't wait. ps. Bazz, By-Tor, you set the bar high. I'll have to take some cracking photos now.

Fair enough. There is no wrong or right way.

Damn, how can I have missed this? Oh, 22nd Dec? I was on GPRS. Excellent video, it looks just like me.

Will you make these straps available separately? They look damned good!

At this point a photo or link would be appropriate.

Would you mind if I gave you some advice? Well, I'm going to anyway. If I were you, I'd pick 3-6 photos and only display those. Oh, and reduce them to 640px-800px wide and post them inline. I just get daunted by the sheer volume of photos and I really can't be arsed to click, close, click, close to see them all, which means I'm missing out on the really good pictures in there. If you pick the best three to six photos, you'll get more comments. Or, you can tell me to shut up and go play in traffic or something.

The Exif says ... # Image Description = KONICA MINOLTA DIGITAL CAMERA # Camera Make = KONICA MINOLTA # Camera Model = DYNAX 7D

When you want lume, you reach for a Seiko diver's watch. Everyone knows this. ps. Yes, all taken at ISO80, shockingly. For exposure times, look at the second hand.

Yes, but Cisco released the iPhone in December 2006, after Apple registered the trademark (under the name of Ocean Telecom Services LLC, just to be secretive) in September 2006. Like I say, it's simply not cut and dried.

Now, you're assuming that this was Cisco's Trademark in the first place. It wasn't, it was a trademark of a company Linksys bought and then Cisco bought Linksys. To defend and renew a trademark, you apparently need to show it has been in use continuously for 6 years when the renewal comes up. This isn't copyright or intellectual property law, this is US trademark law. Let's not forget that Cisco don't even have a case outside of the US.

Well, I'm still waiting for you to get the LVs back in stock and now you have MB, I can pay you.

Any sign of a 183h? ps. Nice photos. Duh, like you need me telling you that.

I believe the dealers may still be offering Paypal to selected customers. It's how I'd do it in their place. However, if I were buying from them and they offered me a paypal account in spite of the fact they were openly telling people they no longer accepted paypal, I'd not mention it.

Seeing as no-one else has done this, I'm going to post my MB referral link so I can make a few cents off anyone using it to sign up. Join MoneyBookers I don't know how it works, but if it helps me get cheaper watches to review, I'm all for it. ps. Admin, if this is out-of-order, I recommend deleting this post and setting up an account in the name of the forum as a referrer and using any measly profits to help pay towards the hosting.

Yeah, I keep forgetting to do that.

Au contraire, Mister Postman, au contraire!