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Nice pic By-tor, is that the one from Eurotimez? Just kidding Reflecting what others have said, the value of gens is purely subjective. The couple of gens I have owned I find have an emotional value more than a monetary value. My SMP certainly wasn't a whole world apart from my Skyland, and the Aerospace certainly wasn't worth extra

Whether it be gens or reps, we all belong here due to the passion we all share in relation to watches. Many members here including myself buy gens and reps. V, now you solely own Pam gens, this doesn't exclude you from being a part of our community, and selling gen parts here is something that Pam fans appreciate very highly. Not only the availability of parts and services, but also your expertise. It saddens me that someone has spoken to you in this way, and I know I speak for the whole forum when I say you are more than welcome here, you are part of the exclusive club of people that in fact if you weren't here, the community would be worse of for it.

Some peopel have applied graphite powder to the movement which has had successfully restarted the majority of them. As far as a reliable movement out of the box goes, there isn't one unfortunately

Not that I can tell. I prefer the SS Skyland on a strap, but my word, this thing on a bracelet...it's what dreams are made of

The owner bought a bracelet for it and sent it off to be PVD'd. I must say the results are incredible, it looks aazing on the PVD bracelet!

Looks good to me, the Euro is on the left. The only thing that gave it away for me was the CG's. A little trimming on those and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Wear them well!

Yes the 6.75 comes with the 5 spoke wheel on the case. Not many would notice; a.) becaues it's rare b.) because it will be ion your wrist however it's whether you could live with it or not, and if you bought one expecting the 5 spoke wheel (because its on the site) then I'm sure Joshua will send a replacement caseback for you.

E.g. IWC Big Pilot 5004 = IWC BP5004 (if one were to abbreviate the last names) Breitling Superocean Steelfish = SOSF The Superocean is one model from the line of the Aeromarine series. The Steelfish is a line of the Superocean. Therefore it is the Superocean Steelfish (SOSF)

Finding a genuine case set will be no easy task. My advice would be to buy the rep, and go for the modded route rather than full franken. Double AR and a good datewheel will do wonders for the rep.

Scotty Pam 250 - Swiss 7753 + Lello datewheel + spare 2507750 case set for a bezel change. All confirmed as received by Jakub mid June, and has been due for sending back 3 times now.....last communication from him was 19/8, but it was an e.mail with a cut and paste from someone else, so not actually a personally typed response... Caracarnj Breitling MontBrilliant Datoras Whole Watch sent directly from Eurotimez in Early August Windyzz Navitimer Fireman_Fred Tag Link Chrono - Complete watch head Sent Mid July. Received last email from Jakub saying it was ready on 20.08.08 Tazzman BCE +new dw Navitimer +new dw Rolex gmt2 Porsche flat6 Gen Tissot MB1 3 watches Itseme Breitling Bentley - Confirmation from Jakub that watch had been received in Poland - 18/Aug/08 Prof 1xUPO crystal 1xSOH crystal Yacht_master UPO - watchhead Sent: 30/06/08 Last contact: 27/08/08 sulimblim One PAM 089 Scoobs1971 DSN PAM088 case/crystal sent on 19th of August. The last mail I got from J was from a previous order on the 9th of August. RC42 1x 45mm Omega PO crystal 1x 42mm Omega PO crystal 1x Vacheron Constantin Overseas crystal 1x Audemars Piguet Royal Oak crystal 1x Rolex Submariner crystal 1x Rolex Sea-Dweller (pre SSD) crystal Pam 192MEX 1 Ingy AMG Ti (head only), AR and Lelo switch DW - Sent watch on 01/Jun/08, Jakub confirmed would ship watch on 27/Aug/08 AndyHolmes 1 x PAM 177H (whole watch) Olreon 1 X Pam217 saphire crystal gruva 1 x PAM 250 - Swiss 7753 (whole watch) Since beginning of July. Lewis123 1 X BCE V2 (watch without bracelet) Since end of july. fivefive 1 X UPO - Whole Watch therooster 1 x PAM250 with Lello DW (full watch) 1 x Chopard Mille Miglia Chrono PVD (full watch) 1 x Omega Speedmaster (crystal and case only) 1 x Chopard GMT Chrono (full watch) 1 x IWC Saint Exupery (full watch) Sent out watches the second week of August. Never heard a thing since. MB1 1 x Tag Carrera Blue dial (full watch, no bracelet) 1 x Tag Aquaracer white dial (full watch, no bracelet) 1 X IWC 3717 (full watch, No bracelet) All three sent for date wheels and double AR Sent mid July, last contact Aug 29th. Addingwatch 1 x Pam 292 Sent mid July, last contact was Aug 29th. trombone 1 x IWC Pilot Chrono 3717 + date wheels and double AR Watcher IWC Ingy crystal Masterchief IWC 3717 - movement swap H-Unitas Gen Tag Heuer IWC CD 07 slask111 TAG Heuer Link Blue - Double AR and DW swap. Jakub recieved the watch 26 aug. Hooky 1x 42mm Omega Seamaster sapphire 1x IWC Portuguese Chronograph sariico SMP Chrono sapphire - double AR already paid bluerex 1 x PAM177H Sapphire crystal from DSN Received by Jakub on 12/07/08 Last contact advising that AR is done on 12/08/08 Ptolomeo Breitling for Bentley Chanel J12 Corum Admiral's Cup Sent: May/08 JamesG AP MBK Royal Oak Offshore watch head & crystal Originally sent June 2008, watch returned by Jakub in August 2008 with AR coat but chipped crystal. I returned to Jakub on 19 August 2008 who promised a new crystal. Athan 1 x PAM111H, Sapphire crystal with Chinese AR coating from Angus Sent: 25th of July 2008 sable 1 X UPO -Whole watch (without bracelet)

Misplaced lume dots are a known factor with this watch, no you won't be able to send it back, and if you did, there is a high chance you will get one back with more than one out of place.

5 seconds a day is very good, it's within what is required for a COSC certification (-4, +6)

The Noobs generally come with a pearl that is slightly 'zitty' whereas the Euromariner comes with one that looks to slightly proturde from the surround. With a gen insert the Euromariner will be amazingly close to the real deal.

If you have a UPO, then the rubber strap from Josh/Andrew is the one to go for. The quality and fit is very good. If you have a 45mm Silix PO, then get the rubber strap from Silix. The quality isn't as good, but it is made to measure for that exact watch.

As Andreww has said, all of the reps being released at the moment are very very accurate. It's less about choosing an accurate watch, and more about which one you prefer the deisgn of.

Edited - just updated the list to make it a bit clearer Scotty Pam 250 - Swiss 7753 + Lello datewheel + spare 2507750 case set for a bezel change. All confirmed as received by Jakub mid June, and has been due for sending back 3 times now.....last communication from him was 19/8, but it was an e.mail with a cut and paste from someone else, so not actually a personally typed response... Caracarnj One watch Windyzz Navitimer Fireman_Fred Tag Link Chrono - Complete watch head Sent Mid July. Received last email from Jakub saying it was ready on 20.08.08 Tazzman BCE +new dw Navitimer +new dw Rolex gmt2 Porsche flat6 Gen Tissot MB1 3 watches Itseme Breitling Bentley - Confirmation from Jakub that watch had been received in Poland - 18/Aug/08 Prof 1xUPO crystal 1xSOH crystal Yacht_master UPO - watchhead Sent: 30/06/08 Last contact: 27/08/08 sulimblim One PAM 089 Scoobs1971 DSN PAM088 case/crystal sent on 19th of August. The last mail I got from J was from a previous order on the 9th of August. RC42 1x 45mm Omega PO crystal 1x 42mm Omega PO crystal 1x Vacheron Constantin Overseas crystal 1x Audemars Piguet Royal Oak crystal 1x Rolex Submariner crystal 1x Rolex Sea-Dweller (pre SSD) crystal Pam 192MEX 1 Ingy AMG Ti (head only), AR and Lelo switch DW - Sent watch on 01/Jul/08, Jakub confirmed would ship watch on 27/Aug/08 AndyHolmes 1 x PAM 177H (whole watch) Olreon 1 X Pam217 saphire crystal gruva 1 x PAM 250 - Swiss 7753 (whole watch) Since beginning of July. Lewis123 1 X BCE V2 (watch without bracelet) Since end of july. fivefive 1 X UPO - Whole Watch therooster 1 x PAM250 with Lello DW (full watch) 1 x Chopard Mille Miglia Chrono PVD (full watch) 1 x Omega Speedmaster (crystal and case only) 1 x Chopard GMT Chrono (full watch) 1 x IWC Saint Exupery (full watch) Sent out watches the second week of August. Never heard a thing since. MB1 1 x Tag Carrera Blue dial (full watch, no bracelet) 1 x Tag Aquaracer white dial (full watch, no bracelet) 1 X IWC 3717 (full watch, No bracelet) All three sent for date wheels and double AR Sent mid July, last contact Aug 29th. Addingwatch 1 x Pam 292 Sent mid July, last contact was Aug 29th. trombone 1 x IWC Pilot Chrono 3717 + date wheels and double AR Watcher IWC Ingy crystal Masterchief IWC 3717 - movement swap H-Unitas Gen Tag Heuer IWC CD 07

The v1's crono pushers were slightly too long. As far as the bezel goes, my V2 is a very good bezel, is very solid and clicks with aiuthority, I think dud ones maybe down to the lack of QC in the rep world. For the price this updated V1 is a big big bargain! PS am I the only one who hates this labelling of v1 v2 v3....

An AD will only source these parts for you if you were to take in documentation of your genuine Breitling, or even possibly send it in for the work to be done. Ebay wuld be your best bet, however if it's in relation to your previous post about the Chrono Avenger, I don't see many dials cropping up, and the hands are as rare as hens teeth!

Modifying a few dates. Thanks for the PMs/ Scotty Pam 250 - Swiss 7753 + Lello datewheel + spare 2507750 case set for a bezel change. All confirmed as received by Jakub mid June, and has been due for sending back 3 times now.....last communication from him was 19/8, but it was an e.mail with a cut and paste from someone else, so not actually a personally typed response... Caracarnj One watch Windyzz Navitimer Fireman_Fred Tag Link Chrono - Complete watch head Sent Mid July. Received last email from Jakub saying it was ready on 20.08.08 Tazzman BCE +new dw Navitimer +new dw Rolex gmt2 Porsche flat6 Gen Tissot MB1 3 watches Itseme Breitling Bentley - Confirmation from Jakub that watch had been received in Poland - 18/Aug/08 Prof 1xUPO crystal 1xSOH crystal Yacht_master UPO - watchhead Sent: 30/06/08 Last contact: 27/08/08 sulimblim One PAM 089 Scoobs1971 DSN PAM088 case/crystal sent on 19th of August. The last mail I got from J was from a previous order on the 9th of August. RC42 1x 45mm Omega PO crystal 1x 42mm Omega PO crystal 1x Vacheron Constantin Overseas crystal 1x Audemars Piguet Royal Oak crystal 1x Rolex Submariner crystal 1x Rolex Sea-Dweller (pre SSD) crystal Pam 192MEX 1 Ingy AMG Ti (head only), AR and Lelo switch DW - Sent watch on 01/Jul/08, Jakub confirmed would ship watch on 27/Aug/08 AndyHolmes 1 x PAM 177H (whole watch) Olreon 1 X Pam217 saphire crystal gruva 1 x PAM 250 - Swiss 7753 (whole watch) Since beginning of July. Lewis123 1 X BCE V2 (watch without bracelet) Since end of july. fivefive 1 X UPO - Whole Watch therooster 1 x PAM250 with Lello DW (full watch) 1 x Chopard Mille Miglia Chrono PVD (full watch) 1 x Omega Speedmaster (crystal and case only) 1 x Chopard GMT Chrono (full watch) 1 x IWC Saint Exupery (full watch) Sent out watches the second week of August. Never heard a thing since.

Great work The Zigmeister! Doesn't look like the easiest thing to relume!

If members want to PM me the dates they sent the watch and the date they last heard from Jakub I don'tmind adding those onto the list, this will save everyone reposting the list with the dates etc... I shall leave that at your peril for you to do so if you feel it is necessary. I agree with The Zigmeister, it may help us in putting the jigsaw together though.

If you're going to use this thread to list what you're owed, it's a good idea to cop in the previous ones too. eg Member name Watch x crystal watch y crystal Member name 2 .... Then copy this when you reply, and you end up with one long list instead of a lot of dibs and dabs all in the thread. Scotty Pam 250 Caracarnj One watch Windyzz Navitimer Yachtmaster UPO Fireman_Fred Tag Link Chrono Tazzman BCE +new dw Navitimer +new dw Rolex gmt2 Porsche flat6 Gen Tissot MB1 3 watches Itseme Breitling Bentley Prof 1xUPO crystal 1xSOH crystal Yachtmaster UPO - whole watch sulimblim One PAM 089 Scoobs1971 DSN PAM088 case/crystal RC42 1x 45mm Omega PO crystal 1x 42mm Omega PO crystal 1x Vacheron Constantin Overseas crystal 1x Audemars Piguet Royal Oak crystal 1x Rolex Submariner crystal 1x Rolex Sea-Dweller (pre SSD) crystal Pam 192MEX 1 Ingy AMG Ti (head only), AR and Lelo switch DW Copy the bit in bold if you are going to reply with what you have oustanding with Jakub, makes it much easier to reference that way.

No worries. The Chrono Avenger/Seawolf reps used to be very good. The newer Ti versions are not as good as the old ones but they are still a good replica. If you don't mind a few flaws then the existing Ti Avengers may take your fancy. It is worth checking out Andreww's excellent review of the Chrono Avenger (latest version) here; http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=43076 You sometimes find the old school versions crop up, but they are few and far between, and they usually fetch in the region of 450USD upwards.

Nice pictures. The SOH is a lovely looking watch in the flesh. There is a very good replica out,I have seen that Joshua and Andrew carry the best version. My dealer of choice is Angus, but haven't seen if he carries the newer version with good dial, bezel ad date font though, might be worth checking out his site. Just an afterthought....the mesh bracelet seems to have grown on me too. I used to think it cheapende the watch, but if anything it makes the Heritage look really classy...funny how tastes change!

With regards to the StExupery it was one that I was thinking of buying. I believe it's not much over 120USD if it's the same one that I am thining of. I couldn't find any really obvious flaws, just very tiny little things. It's a good rep for the money!