Jkay

I was following a link in the 390 thread and saw a 232 for the first time. It was beautiful and I want one.

So I looked at Josh's site today, and see a new open pre-order for the 4000M ... this must be the 4th version in the last 6 months, including the "lite" version, of course. Does anyone have info on this new piece? I've been thinking about picking one up.

It matches perfectly. Congratulations.

If the asian clone movement ever physically breaks, there is a chance that swiss parts will not fit the exact piece which went bad. Then you would need to buy a genuine Swiss movement to replace the Clone .. about $140 currently. If the Swiss movement breaks physically, parts are plentiful and always fit. It's up to you. Your call.

So is the case made of sapphire, I suppose?

congratulations. Enjoy it!

OH one last thing!!! Chinese New Year just started ... you are going to think this is an exaggeration but all business stops or slows down for a MONTH during CNY ... you have been warned! There are already new people complaining about communications from dealers being slow ... from January to February every year this happens.

All the Subs I'm listing here are from the same factory in China, we call the "N-Factory" .. they have real sapphire crystals and are high quality stainless steel bodies and bracelets. Never plated brass. The price difference is due to 1) Asia movement, 2) Cloned Swiss movement 3) Real Swiss movement 4) if you order ceramic or "old style" steel bezel insert. The watches are identical otherwise. Same model .. different movements, and either ceramic or steel bezel insert. This dealer has promotional pricing for replica forum members. The prices are a bit lower than other forum dealers due to this promotion. http://www.timesshop...ce&orderway=asc

AWWWW YEAH! Congratulations and thank you for the countless helpful posts over the last few years.

The terms you are using are mostly marketing lies .. they do not exist in reality. Replicas are make in China ... never Italy, Switzerland, etc. So! What you want is a high grade Submariner. Since the site you went to lied to you, and called their reps "Japanese grade" you can immediately assume they are not trustworthy. What is your budget? I can tell you about a $60 Sub .. a $120 Sub, a $200 Sub and a $460 custom modifed Sub ... how much did you want to spend. BTW replica Submariners with Swiss movements don't cost more than about $200 from the factory ... anything else is a ripoff. I know some sites have AAAA quality Swiss Subs for $1000 ... thats still just a $200 sub and you are getting robbed.

Which knob starts "Pac Man" ?

The new Top Gun "Miramar" models look awesome ... not so ridiculous and gaudy as the originals. I love that they removed the caseback sticker and used an engraving instead. PURE CLASS>

Thanks for the follow-up

The many dealers who are "trusted" by this Forum have proven their reliability over years of time. If you buy from a dealer listed here, you will not be cheated, and you will receive good service. Do not buy from "someone" on the Internet. Who are they? You do not know.

It's been many months since I've posted about this, so here it goes. You've found RWG .. that's great. But are you getting the most out of the forums that you possibly can? How can you know what you like or learn something you dont know you didnt know? If you choose a few forums here and read them you might see something you were looking for .. but that's not the way to grow! At RWG we have the tool just for that .. the View New Posts button! Instead of cherry-picking a few forum areas you think you might like, try pressing the View New Posts button and see all the newest posts in all the forum areas of this board. Did Vac post a newly modded model for sale in his area? Did Zig post a new movement tear-down review? Is someone *right now* having the same watch problem as you, and already found the answer? View New Posts! Look at the upper right corner of your screen .. it's there .. View New Posts! After you get to the new posts screen, you can choose "Past 24 hours" or "Since my last Visit" ... your choice ... You won't regret expanding your own horizons.

Very nice, Vac ... is this a customer's piece or are you selling this model with your special mods?

So Kuvarssit still has stock of these straps?

So the true path here is to buy it on rubber and then purchase a gen assolutamente ??

Simply go to Perfect Clones (www.perfectclonesfor.me) and look in the Franck Muller section. They have this Aeternitas in many color combinations. If the watch is 500 or more USD, it is a chinese tourby ... if it is under 500 USD then it is simply an open heart movement .. not a tourby.

Altho my DSSD is one of the very first TrevorTime models from 3 years ago, it does not have a laser crown. I wish that the Noobfactory would fix their dial markers to be the correct proportion .. and then there would be only 1 truly great DSSD.

Go with the Asia clone ETA .. I can not vouch for the case material .. is it a lie? It is the truth? Who knows ... someone would have to test it chemically.

Buy it on rubber, and purchase the "assolumente" replica strap from the cartel for an additional 40$ .. then tell us if it is any good!

I am never sure why people ask for PMs about dealers and prices. The dealers have huge explosive web sites and the prices are public knowledge. I don't understand.

Both the Noobfactory and "TrevorTime" models have their faults ... your choice is this ... which dial do you like better? Thin markers or thicker markers? That is the most glaring difference in these two models.