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Happy Easter from the Ubi family. My allergies are owning me this morning

No. However, it does appear to be a redial or aftermarket for a V72/727 (based on the position of the dial feet).

Not sure which to wear today... MBW 1665 Franken-MBW 7928 Franken made 3646 hommage DW 6263 silver DW 6263 black DW 6265 PN Franken made 16234 Hmmmmm....

Dani- Excellent choice! I must admit, I am a bit surprised to see a posting of yours featuring something not Panerai! Cheers, Randy

Legit? Most definitely not. It's a reproduction/aftermarket/replication... Whatever you want to call it, but certainly not legit. It is flawed like crazy, and nothing at all like a genuine. I am sure the bidding only got as high as it did because of shill bidding- The fact that the auction listing was kept private only further strengthens my suspiscion. I wouldn't be suprised if the item was not actually sold to anyone- Chances are, the winning bidder is actually the seller.

The more and more I see the black PO, the more smitten I become. I think I might have to get one sometime this year... It's a beauty!

That is quite nice, Maciek!! I may have to pick one up for my sweetie!

Only thing is... Toni's (torresp's) 116520 doesn't have a crappy 'Asian movement' in it... Rather, it has a Swiss movement.... That came from a place in Geneve called Rolex. That's a genuine 4130 in that watch... And the watch also happens to be 100% genuine.

Vintage is always nice.

Both are good. Just depends on what your preference is. With regards to legibility- The white dial may have the slight advantage. But aesthetically, both are quite nice.

I'd be in for a black/black coramid one....

Sign me up!

Excellent work!! Glad to see people giving this stuff a try! The genuine T-21 makes a huge difference!

Genuine dial is something that I am searching for, but, not always easy to find (especially at the right price). Lots of aftermarkets and redials out there... So, I took what was readily available. Bracelet and endlinks are genuine.

I'm not convinced that the case was an actual MBW- In my opinion, it looks much different than the MBW 1665 cases I've owned. Shape of lugs (profile/curve/etc), the bezel doesn't look tall enough... Most likely, a reproduction of another sort. But certainly not genuine. (just my opinion).

Manuel- You are correct- The 1680 MBW cases are marked 'POLEX', but the MBW 1665 is simply marked 'REGISTERED DESIGN'- Link for some case characteristics.

Looks genuine... I'd be very surprised if it was not. I'm not well versed in 16570's, but the things I'm looking at are the bezel engravings, dial, hands, and overall precision and small detail that just doesn't say rep to me. I'd like to see images of other angles

Just a comparison shot.... My in-progress 16520 frankenstein (still holding out for the 'right' El Primero movement to take up residence inside...) Darth's genuine 16523- To be fair- All the parts on mine are genuine, except the dial (which is a reprint on a genuine Rolex dial base). Sometimes the frankensteins just cannot be detected... Even when the case back is removed (genuine rotor and bridges can be fitted to complete the look). Careful folks... It's a jungle out there...

Sounds like the datewheel overlay is simply misaligned. It can be removed and straightened... Or, you could simply get an MBW

Lookin' good Joe.

Back in my past life when I was involved with gens, I showed a very uppity uptight snob of a purist colleague of mine one of my genuines, telling him it was a fake just to mess with his mind. He stammered, and said 'of course! I knew it was from the moment I saw it'. I couldn't help laughing in his face about that one, especially since he was *the* self proclaimed expert. Now, I show him my MBW's and say... Real? Fake? His response is a flustered look and hurried walk past me. I love rattling some cages!

That 1665 COMEX looks familiar...

I always have a good laugh when I read people on the gen forums writting things like 'All replica owners, buyers and advocates are just as fake as their watches'... That is the farthest thing from the truth. Folks here are amongst the most genuine I've known- We have compassion and community... Just as much as anyone (and maybe even more so than some). Sure, we might purchase replica watches- We all have our reasons and purposes, but that fact does not make us any less worthy or credible as people and individuals. A common interest has brought us together- A love for watches in general. But the people here... The genuine people, the members, the friends... We all make this a community, and ultimately, a family. My hat is off to you all. Best regards, R

That's a genuine 16523.