Richard Tracy

Received the Portuguese today...Gold Hand model... {cancelled the panda at the last minute,.. good thing too as I now I can order the reverse panda in a few. } After purchasing other gold hand watches on white, which I found at times difficult to read, with the lack of contrast... I find this face no problem to read, the thicker hands combined with the new improved silver/white face makes all the difference in the world. It's also the narrowest profile 7750 I have owned,.. I think I can pull it off in business attire... As for Quality Control... I hate crooked markers, and find them the number one tell tale of a replica... In this model however QC is 100% right-on,... totally straight, including the hands ! Runs perfect,.. Chronos and all,.. As for and rotar, I find normal for the 7750 in sound, though I will send these to The Zigmeister for servicing... Over all,.. one of the best put together replicas to date,.... Highly recommended... Now for a strap search.... and my collection will be complete.... {until the next have 2 have model comes along... which I hope will be a Zenith.... }

Ditto ! I have owned over 90 reps... and less than 2% of them have had any problems.. including the lower level pieces that I have given to my teen age sons to beat up and play ball in.... even those are still running after years... I have never even had any of them serviced.. though I think I will, with my favorite top seven....

The Jones is a much larger watch,.. Gotta have the reverse panda & try to get Jay to honor the lower price... This is one watch that's worth a few spaces in my box....

Strongly disagree,..with many of the premises in this thread... First of all the engine that runs this site, and indeed this industry, are We, The People.. we that shell out our hard earned money. Dealers are into this for profit, thus we have no obligation to make sure that we spread our money out equally between them, or make sure that they will survive. Survival of any person who decides to sell, is their own responsibility. If the crop drys up, then sell something else... However Most have established their customer base, and will be fine, while others will be discovered by new clients during group buys and will profit further into the future, as some customers return. Thus this notion that we are somehow hurting them and in the process ourselves ....is but a jaded idea... If, One gains, while the other was too slow or too tight to take a bit less profit on one particular watch, to gain it back in another... Then Who hurt who ? That is the game of life, my friend.. and especially so in business... As for us... if we save some money on a group buy... what dealer is going to hold that against any member ? Not a one.... I can take 25 of any members and any dealer would be glad to have them....over and over again.... back and forth, round & round... Next, this issue again of price verses service, as if the two were ever at odds with our best dealers... I have found from experience, is that low price does NOT always equate lower service or quality, ..again...it depends upon the dealer... Both of my group buys were handled by great dealers.. first EL and 2nd Jay...and you will find that members who participated in both, have not, and will not lose a bit of service both pre or post purchase. Nor will the dealer not see his profit... Lastly I will speak on price, though I can go on and address quite a few other issues raised...but just drove 12 hours straight ....and my eyes and mind are very weary... Many new watches that come first into honpo are very much over-priced.... and can remain that way for much longer than was allowed here, with the portuguese... Thus this $25 savings figure that is being passed off as fact is not accurate... That watch was selling...{and it was selling} for with shipping for $345.. Some dealers then took it down to $300, but don't for a moment think that if everyone was gladly forking over $300 that the price would have dropped... Bidding made it fall... and Quickly.... Why should anyone pay an extra $75 to $100 for a First release watch ? No one here,.. should....and does not need to...the generations are coming as quick as five per year... Besides.. that extra savings most likely with our replica addictions, goes back into another watch purchase regardless,.. further feeding our dealers... I say Group buys are a great way to go..... it puts the power back into the hands of the board to decide how much we want to pay for a new or discontinued model... Buying separate as a rule, is only hurting the individual that applies such ridged and artificial restrictions upon himself... This is Buy and Sell...is all about Money, Family & Individual Resources, and Time...which is LIFE. Don't for one moment fall into the trap of thinking that anyone who Sells to you, had made any mental or emotional obligations to you.. You can drop from this board any time and will not be missed by them, except by the void of your currency... This relationship is about respect for money.... so let's use it with those that understand these facts, by choosing to think long term about our abilty to pay now, and in future...and that can only be done by taking their lower profit over years... That is how you will see who gives a care about you.. by how much they are willing to put back into your pocket....for you to play with again later... Oh & by the way,...Group buys will Not Collapse under any weight,.. they are as light as a feather.... Those that participate have proven to be the most honest, and forthright indivuduals, who understand the benefits and do follow through.... The first was a success.. and this 2nd venture suceeded from day ONE > I think Group buys will continue and are a joy to put together.. I wish more would host them as I have met so many more great people that I could otherwise....

That's not called 'Reply' in Neilease.... it's called 'Holding the Hand."

Well, if we play it right.. We can be the fishermen... Fishing for the lowest price, highest quality morsel....

Thanks for the Thanks Just Everyone... Please follow through... If we do... This may be only the beginning of the Rep Wars....

Neil, your product is great... However for a guy that owns a mint worth of Genuine watches, why can't you throw a few dollars to some girl to have someone for answering your e-mail and send progress reports to your waiting clients ? Most of us don't mind waiting for a watch, if you are in a search for new stock, but even if we spend only $80, receiving a note to let us know what is going on... would go a long way to put a lid on all these negative posts... Which reminds me.... 8 weeks .. a Deville that was supossed to be in stock...zero replies..

'Whew ! I'm just glad that you still have your mental faculties,... It's been great having you around ! I hope you make a ton of cash...

Oh ... Yessss...... Count me in for one of those !

Great To Have you Back V man.... Thanks for the photos .... Also to you The Zigmeister Zag....

Sorry to hijack this thread,.... Hey Sql_pl, contact me for your portuguese ordering information... your pm box is full or something....

I do have a list,.. though it's not a paid list, I can't know that... I can't say also how accurate,.. I'm getting a bit burned out and cannot say for sure which I have been in contact with These are the ones in question... though there may be more.. If you have, or have not heard from me.. or not contacted me... let me know.... Marsh Okram Please.. if you should, or should not be on this list.. pm me asap..

Hey Gang... Let's get this closed out.... a Few have yet to contact me... the Future of Group Buys is on the line ... We must follow through.... , otherwise the price has not been justified....

Funny you should mention that... Jay request that you send separate email with your order choice... so only place your screen name in notes... however if you have a watch screen name.. alter it a bit.... Pm me for paypal address and instuctions...I'm getting tired...

Okay I have the Paypal address.... Pm me for complete instuctions. One issue however.... Jay asks that we split up this buy over 3 to 4 days for reasons of volume notices at paypal... So if anyone wants to be included in the first batch of 12.. let me know.. otherwise I will spit up the list and assign order dates...

For the new here or unexperienced... there are Solid reasons we did not select {aka Paul} for open bidding to this Group Buy.. Dealer History.. and Price, must be balanced... If you want to know Paul's history... especially in group buys.. do your research... or ask someone... I want everyone to receive their watch,.. and obtain fixes or replacements in needed....

David.. you will know when the time comes.... As for price.. let's leave this one alone.... we will have many others if we work this with a bit foresight...and save much more over time....

Okay Lady & Gents.... Just about ready to begin ordering. soon as I obtain the proper paypal address from him ... {if you know his new paypal address, please PM me...so we don't have to wait another day..} The watches are the same as being sold everywhere... There is no Stainless Band... EMS Shipping is Included ... If however you are in a special area, and know your best shipper and cost, please add the aprox. amount over $28 or EU 22 to your payment. {if you don't, please do some research on your own } Possible problem areas are East Europe, South & Central America, if you live in these areas, contact Jay for confirmation, to work it out but you can still order. "Watch Silix" <silixprime@gmail.com> The Price is again.. $230 and since this is a Bulk Group Buy Order,.. which means pack and ship....so.. please don't request a different color band....that adds extra work & handling, also means he will have a bulk of odd bands left over.. Brown is with Gold, Black with Panda... We would like to do many more of these group buys so we need to be considerate to the dealer.. 90% of us never wear replica leather bands anyway, they are most times too cheaply made..and bring down the presentation of your timepiece. ----------------------------------------------------------- At Paypal as to 'Type' select 'Service' In Notes.. Put your Board Username, {to prove inclusion in this deal} and either 'Panda' or 'Gold Hands' ..That is ALL. Again for New people to Paypal... Never Use the Wording 'Replica' or Even in this case 'Watch'... After delivery, if your watch happens to be defective, Jay Will replace it.. so please don't panic, and never contact Paypal .... which would burn us all.., he will work out any problems... he always does... If this is your first Chronograph... you need to do some study here, before you begin playing with the watch.. or you may regret it. If you break it... that's on you....so please study, and if you can't find answers.. ask questions here ... Lastly, if you pmed me on inclusion, I will add your name shortly...

This is the one time in a while, that I wish I were back home in Colo...

Great Photos Avitt, You captured the concentric circles perfectly... I think once I receive this watch, it will be my favorite work watch for some time to come...

Ubi.. you never fail to Amaze ! Is it for trade ? I had a milguass long ago, before I knew what it was going to be worth...and would enjoy having your representation over what's available anyday....!

You're In....

Jay may be mistaken,.. but we will see when the photos come in.... If Jay is correct,.. for anyone that missed it... the Stainless Band models are going for $260....

The Latest List,.. and it's still open.. but not for long... If anyone missed the 'When',.. we are awaiting photos from Jay as model confirmation, ...then the ball will be set in motion. I would expect by early next week... All New to this,.. Please, never mention the word 'replica' or the watch name or brand, in any portion of ordering via paypal... Simply state Panda, or Gold Hands....and Service... All special order band color request can be given at time of paypal, though I cannot guarantee it will be honored..... This is a Group buy.. thus the discount.. Individual orders are at retail due to the extra handling.. so if at all possible let's be fair to the dealer... Not to mention, as some of us know... Adding complications into this juggling act can upset the balance and break a few plates, Besides... the addition of a quality band is 50% of the presentation of your watch. If you need to locate a band dealer, check out the link section... Here we go... if the list grows.. I may be able to get a bit more of a discount.... 1. Me for 2 3. DuDro 4. Fletch512 5. Krusty Brand 6. Poodang 7. Ratchpot 8. Chicken Manny 9. Drop 10. Pam Man 11. D3706 12. Marsh 13. Love Panerai 14. FX Randy 15. Jake48 16. Nguyendd 17. Finepics 18. Bravo 19. Denise Gold 20. Sql_pl 21. Rocket 754 22. Tourbillon 1801 23. Watch Watcher 24. Ryaku 25. Nate 922 26. Szumi 27. Okram 28. Halley 29. Willjous 30. Minuterepeater 31. Yossarian 32. watch obessive 33. Mdg137 34. Bear 35. Ab2450 ---------------------