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Eton, Your post made me very happy. I have so much love for IWC. Everything they stand for, their history, design and expertise are sublime. The 3717 is a classic, and your piece and the make up of it is orgasmic. Knowing that you have orchestrated the entire build up through help of great members here makes this Flieger extra special. I see every modded piece made via RWG like a dedication to all true watch lovers here. Just like the Pam 360 on Risti just minus all the palava, bitching and crying. I definitely want the 3717 as well, just need to save up and then give a call to Concepta. Wear this Flieger with pride

Hi Buddy, As already mentioned, there are several excellent dealers recommended on this site. The IWC Portuguese is a classic and you will have a lot of joy out of them. The Portuguese non-chrono manual winding ones such as the modern Vintage Collection Portuguese black dial, is a damn good rep which has a good reliable movement. The best imo however is the 3714 with full black dial. The default asian movement is unreliable however. BUT if you contact Concepta, he can hook you up with a genuine IWC movement and get it fitted in order to make this rep fully usable and reliable. Good luck

bee you tee full!!!

yes, i'd be in for one, esp with these new pams coming out

I know there must have been several threads like this before, but I love seeing watch pics If you had all the money in the world etc etc... what watches would you get? I am a sporty watch guy but there are two dressy watches that I would love to own. The Pano Inverse from Glashutte is absolutely special. I tried the gen on in an AD in Frankfurt and just felt so sad that I couldn't take it home But the ultimate watch I would want to own is the L&S Zeitwork

wow, amazing pickup and collection

yep, just came out in the recent SIHH2011. No reps of it yet, you're looking at late spring summer time for this to be released in gen form in AD's probably.

Not sure what the price of the rep is, but the repairs may cost just as much as the rep or even more. I'd buy a new rep if I was you.

Nice one Joerg, I reserved the gen/gen/gen datewheel & sellita Spitfire

You are unstoppable!

btw, without sh**ing you, somebody JUST outbid me on that piece. I won't go above a thousand in that, but I am now looking at a Moonphase and may put an offer in.

that looks very gen to me

nice gen

wow those were amazing pics. hope everyone stays ok there though

This is random but I honestly believe this. The 3717 is the most beautiful watch on the planet, for me.. It fits like a glove, looks so easy on the eye, has everything you need and is just wow. I really need this again. I have been through a gen and three reps, and cannot understand why I ever let go of them...

I wish this AP was mine, but it belongs to a good friend of mine... and yep it's gen. this is the baby I am wearing for today

That's true bro. I make a distinction between people who become "wealthy" and those who become "rich". People who show their riches are often showing the external stuff i.e. gold, watches, cars etc etc.. Showing wealth is rather covert where value is "hidden" ie if you own large amount of good stocks and land etc. Over time one obviously devalues much faster than the other. But hey.. We have this site and a good family here who enjoy this hobby for the right reasons

Don't know how to multiquote @ Ubiquitous : You're right, number "3" people just assume that they must get the best service by everyone and be shown insane respect. This arrogance is so annoying. They probably don't know how to even work certain functions of timepieces. @ TeeJay : I absolutely agree with you. Isn't it ironic that some of the people who wear gen watches and have this smugness about them usually have the most fake persona?? I'd rather have a rep and be "real".I enjoy watches and want to enjoy my geeky side to that with people who appreciate what I say and know about timepieces.

the waiting is prob the hardest part. people say there is magic in gens, but there is MAGIC in reps.

If you can buy me an Ipad, I will gladly join your club

Awesome post. I started owning a few reps and then bought a few gens but still go back to reps from time to time. I don't have any reps anymore but I am looking into getting another very soon. The problem with watches is not the watch itself, it's the person wearing it and for what PURPOSE they are wearing it. 1) People buy any watch just to tell time...we have seen millionaires just own a simple quartz watch for that. 2) People buy watches because they love and appreciate the art of watchmaking and the skill required. 3) People buy watches just to show their success and riches. I guess RWG and gen watch forums have a high combination of both "2" and "3" and a very tiny proportion of "1". If you meet "2", there is a good possibility that you may enjoy a good conversation about watches and also talk comfortably about reps and the amazing quality that we can now find. To be honest, reps have shown me an indication of the true intrinsic value of gen watches which has helped me in buying gen watches for fair prices. If you meet "3", you will get those elitist douches who think by wearing expensive watches you will always automatically have "genuine" friends who "genuinely" care for you. In fact if you do go to TZ etc, people mostly get props for buying the most expensive pile of shhh, but those who buy excellent watches at good prices often just get that "pat on the back". People often misunderstand true value in things, relationships, processes and general life. I must admit, without wanting to sound overly like a cheesecake, this site is an amazing experience and really holds a good value proposition for watch enthusists like us.

also have a look at a dark blue suede strap, they look killer on the TG

definitely ask as the lighting may have blurred the marks in the dual shot. beautiful watches though

hold on, is the area around the polished pin on the CG on the 253 scratched?