rolli

yes it is the same,

logged out when i press the bumb button.

rolli

Can you please try again and see if this happens again?

when i press the bumb function i have to lock in again.

still not fixed

rolli

Things should be working like they are supposed to now. If you get logged out, just log in again and everything should be fine.

when i want to press the bumb button,

then i have to sign-up new.

rolli

Truth Or Not ??????????

new pam 127 and 372

rolli

sorry..wrong post

rolli

in the next 12 or 24 hours the site will be online with a new adress >>>>>>>>> perfect-clones.co

rolli

what happened to Josh, his website is down for almost a week now. Anybody knows?

:thumbdown: =@

rolli

i need measuremets from ( A ) + ( B )

rolli

here two pictures with the pam 177M serie.

you see the different upper ( A ) and lower ( B ) bezel-edge-phase measurement.

rolli

could you give me the measurement ( A ) and ( B ) in mm ???

rolli

no..no..

the prev was only an example for my question.

i want to know, have all bezels the different upper and lower phase measures.

rolli

Apologies mate. I read your two questions and tried to answer question 1)

I was going to measure my gens bezels but unfortunately non are the PreV case that you refer too..so I cant help..Sorry

could you read my questions again.

on the tech drawing and the pictures have the upper and lower bezel edge phases different measures.

is this correct ???

rolli

??? Genuine Bezel Shape Construction

could it be that the genuine bezel shape construction is like on the 201A technical drawing ??????

the upper bezel edge phase ( A ) is wider than the lower bezel edge phase ( B ) ???????

see also the pictures with the genuine 201A and the 001A.

and with the genuine pam 005.

1.) have the different panerai models and versions different bezel shape constructions ????????

2.) could the genuine panerai owners measure the both bezel-edge-phases A + B ????????

and which panerai model + serie it is.

thanks

rolli

many thanks for the clear statement.

rolli

Rolli, I disassembled 177 & 219 and they look like the 104 in your picture. Except now the bezel gasket is half as thick.

no...

my question is, did you disassemble all theses pams ?????

rolli

Would you have accused me of not telling the truth if I didn't ?

Chill out...

did you check this with all these models ????????

rolli

Many of us mentioned this already many, many times...I even replied directly to your post yesterday, Rolli.

Basically the 005/318/219/177 from Hublot maker all come with the non-standard bezel construction, as shown on your B1 and B2 photos.

???? Bezel Construction 005, 219, 177 - Hublot-Maker:

for me it is not clear which bezel construction used the hublot-maker for the pams 005, 219, 177.

we know the 111J has the correct bezel construction like the genuine one.

could anybody give enlightenment about the pam 005, 219, 177 bezel construction ??????????

picture A:  =  111J  bezel construction

picture B1 + B2:  =  hublot-maker ultimate 104 bezel construction.

thanks

rolli

Great comparison. I have not seen either of the reps in the flesh but the 111 looks vastly superior. I do have a question for the 219 owners though. Does it have a normal bezel construction. It looks very odd coming off the case - almost like it is one piece with the case or a different way of seating on the case.

an interesting question.

here 3 pictures with a hublot-maker pam 104 ultimate case. see the bezel construction.

i hope the maker didn't make the same with the new pams 005, 219, 177.

rolli

great information

rolli

and for february starts another member the donation thread.

i hope so....

rolli

thanks guys for your help

rolli

last chance to help with donation for january.

rolli

we need more money

come on guys.

rolli

panerai started with DLC coating the first time in 2008 with the 026K destro.

all other black pams before had the PVD coating. beginning with the pre vendome pams 202A, 203A and 218A,

and then 004 PreA and 009 PreA and 004A and 009A.

rolli

dear T,

it's a wonderful pam,

wear it well and have much pleasure with it

greetings

rolli