freddy333

Subby Sunday

Hey Trib - Why are you even bothering to check email if you are in Ibiza?

Yes

I soil my Pampers every time I see your special datewheel, Nanuq. No 3 for me late Saturday

That is some fancy picture-takin, Harley.

ebay is the only place you might find 1, but they are few & far between. Every once in awhile, someone disassembles & parts-out a Pan & if you are in the right place at the right time, you could get lucky (assuming your pockets are deep enough). But I think you are probably more likely to find an entire 3446, 3646 or 6152 than you are a 618 by itself.

Great info, but why would you think anyone here would be interested?

You may be right about that. Another happy RWG customer. Yes, the global warming craze seems to have cooled off a bit. Did you get in alot of traveling? I seem to remember you guys had quite an interesting road trip last summer.

I do not have a spare hand, but you can get a good aftermarket Rolex handset from Clarks.

Wearing the rose again today (Saturday)

I think the 'TGIF W>C' initially confused alot of people (me). Probably a good idea to use a standard title format if you want everyone to see it.

According to US trademark law (which sides with Rolex), most aftermarket parts fitted to a Rolex watch sent in to Rolex for service are, like rep watches themselves, considered contraband & an infringement on the Rolex trademark. Therefore, Rolex has the right (but not the duty) to confiscate the parts & replace them with genuine Rolex parts. As I understand it, legally, this is similar to someone who, using a pirated copy of Windows that he purchased for 1/10th the price of a genuine copy, contacts Microsoft support via an online connection only to have them disable his pirated 'Validation' code & requiring him to pay for a genuine copy. In the eyes of the law, these are simply trademark holders enforcing their trademark rights. You actually just answered the question yourself - it is 'pure aesthetics'. No serious diver (in his right mind) would wear a nearly $10,000 watch to work in the depths of the sea. But alot of people (most of whom have never even worn SCUBA gear in a swimming pool) want to wear a watch that looks like something a serious diver would wear (at least that is 1 of the reasons I like to wear my Subs & SDs). The point is that Rolex has not produced true tool watches for many years. They are in the business of marketing well-made jewelry that accurately (for a mechanical device) tells the time. And virtually every time Rolex has produced a radically new design (radical for them), uproar & proclamations of their eminent demise have followed. For every WIS that finds fault with the SDDS, there is another that loves it. I suspect that those of us (like me) who hold their noses & pass on the SDDS now (similar to the way Daytonas sat on AD's shelves 30 years ago) will probably be buying them (at 4 times their original price) as rare collectibles in 30 years.

At least until the Chinese re-engineer the RFID, it should make it easier for organizations that can afford an RFID reader to verify authenticity of a gen. But it will do nothing to stem the tide of reps being sold & worn on the streets of every city in the world. Eventually, the Chinese will copy this like they have copied nearly every other anti-forgery device the gens have thrown at them (the sole exception that I am aware of are the layers of invisible UV marking & laser perforations of internal parts built into VC's Quai de l'Ile, which the Chinese have not (yet) cracked)

It would help to know what the movement is (hands are fit to movements, not watch models).

I think it would look better on a steel Oyster.

That is what I figured happened, but, as you noted, Lani's was a Friday wristies.

If the watch has a strap, then (assuming it fits the watch) that is the size you need. Otherwise, measure the distance (in mms) between the lugs (where the end of the band fits). Common sizes are 18mm, 19mm or 20mm (distance between the lugs).

Odd. Did you tip the Moderators?

Well, then that makes 2 things I never change (the other is underwear).

I know nothing about this particular seller or watch, but, in general, bad pictures (small, dark, out of focus, shadowy, etc) = scam. Buyer beware.

Again, you can do whatever you want with your own watch. Issues only arise if you want RSC to service it or you want to sell/represent it as a 'genuine Rolex'. US courts have consistently upheld Rolex's claim that any Rolex that contains a non-Rolex part is both not a Rolex watch &, further, an infringement on their trademark since Rolex trades on its (perceived) quality & non-Rolex/aftermarket parts damage that perception of quality.

Ok, 16610s (date) seem to be centered around the upper $3k range.

Modern (sapphire x-tal) Subs are not my specialty, but I see alot of $4k 14060s for Buy Now sale on ebay from generally reliable sellers (search for 'rolex submariner no date'.

Good point. But ask any gen Rolex owner with an aftermarket crystal, bezel or end link what they got back from their local US RSC (Rolex service) when they sent their watch in for service or repairs? Answer - they will either receive their unserviced/unrepaired watch back along with a disclaimer on the service ticket stating that non-Rolex parts were found on the customer's watch & Rolex will not repair or warrant a watch with aftermarket parts, or, depending on the part or parts in question, they will replace the aftermarket parts with gens & add the parts to the customer's bill (the customer will not receive any parts back). Points well taken, but (if you replace 'DSSD' with 'LV' or 'Daytona' or 'Milgauss', etc) I have heard all of these complaints before (many times) in the time that I have been collecting (more than 25 years). Yet, for the past 50 or so years, Rolex has been (& remains) the largest luxury watch maker in the world. And by a good margin. The only possible chink in the Rolex marketing armor I can see might come by way of their new, larger watch models, which they are bringing to market about 5 years too late (since the big watch fad peaked in the early 00s). But every other time their demise has been foretold, the foreteller has ended up with egg on his face & Rolex has continued, unswervingly, on their merry way to the bank.

Putting it lightly, yes.