HaydenM

Great first build. Wear it in good health.

I would bet the single largest expense thay have is buying Gens to copy. That is a lot of gens. Unless they can copy from photographs. I would bet their movements are the same used in Armitron watches at Wal Mart for the quartz watches. The automatics are hit and miss. Especially the 7750s Chronos. But people are spending $700 for some watches. So there is major bread being made by someone. $700US  is a lot of spending power in China

I think a lot of people call bullsh!t on the "made with gen as sample" as it's often said on watches that there is no chance that it's true. Nobody really buys quartz reps (well not in our rep market) so the movements do add to a bit of the price (the retail for an asian 2824-2 is about $100) 

That's partly why I love Adam Levine so much, and his decadent vintage Rolex collection. 

I absolute agree, he has a magnificent collection of classy vintage rolex watches that just come off so effortless.

I rock a gen muller and don't think this applies to me.

:S I quite like them, but can't speak for the movements.

"made this using the gen as a sample"

I'm sure they're completely honest

I'm loving the rise of the 1016s recently. Gorgeous watch

Absolutely gorgeous watch, wonderful first watch build

I detect that this thread could get flamey, but for the honest answers.
 

I spend part of my time in the city and some in the country, which definitely changes the types of watches that I see. In the country I have seen a couple of Omegas, My mother wears a Longines and my father had a Bvlgari.

In the city on the other hand there are many many watches I've come across, and quite a few rolexes in there.

New Rolex: Typically new money, not a guy that is too into watches, sometimes flashy as is most well known (submariner)

Vintage Rolex: Understated, generally worn for the wearing and for nobody else, most wearers have a knowledge of watches

Hublot: Cares what other people think, will show off their watch, wants to get notices but has no idea of the mechanics behind what they're wearing

AP ROO: I feel that these are pretty similar to what I think about hublot, but at a higher price bracket. (Though I say this I am wanting a ROO diver )

AP RO: Understated, sophisticated, classy. I'd associate with an older gent who has it made.

Patek: Similar to the AP RO but I would hold this to a more revered level.

JLC: Knows about their watches, understated and classy

Omega: Up and coming young gent, can sometimes be worn by those knowing a little bit about watches (as is a less obvious choice than rolex)

Tag Heuer: Wants a nice watch, doesn't know about watches.

Heuer: Probably knows a lot about watches, or has had the watch for many years.

Panerai: Muscle man, flashy, lacking in finesse (I know some guys around here will do it but I cannot stand this watch worn with a business suit)

The problem with statements like "this rep has the best lume" is that in the rep world the QC can differ in each watch meaning some of a watch will have good lume while others not so much. If you want the best lume then a relume is probably required.

http://watchbitz.com.au/shop/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=259

What I got for my tools.

Why is it so difficult for the chinese to clone 100% movements? Imagine a true clone of a Rolex movement, a 1570, a V72, an AP movement? How much would we pay for such a clone?? Me, a lot!

I know just about nothing when it comes to movements but I'd assume that they would be more complicated and perhaps beyond the scope of asian manufacturers.

A lovely guy around the forum. My condolences to the family. 

R.I.P Cats

Carpe Diem

I really need to make myself one of these for my dedicated dive watch (unless I just buy an skx007). How do you find the crown on them? I've heard they are rather odd in how they operate.

It would probably help if you could show movement photos to confirm or reject the "clone of the clone" possibility, but otherwise it sounds like a keyless issue. What watch is it and do you know which ETA movement it's a clone of? If it's a 2824-2 there is a great tutorial at the other RWG about taking apart and reassembling the keyless works (which I have had to use more times that I care to mention )

I think that you may be biting off a little bit more than you can chew if your first foray into watchmaking is what would be a rather expensive franken.
In my first attempt to fix what could have been a simple tudor black bay I destroyed the keyless works a few times (and subsequently learnt how to fix it) before breaking the dial feet and completely writing off the hands (it's still sitting in a pile). In my second attempt (my 1016 built) I broke the keyless more times and destroyed even more hands (I think there is a recurring theme here).

Overall I would advise you to get accustomed with how it all works before trying it out with expensive 3135 movements and the like. 

As far as advice on the build I am not sure but I believe that it could probably be done by cutting the dial feet and attaching the dial to an ETA or ETA clone movement (I'm unsure as to whether a 2824 or 2836 movement would be used for this but I'm sure others far more knowledgable than me could chip in for that).

Anyway, good luck on your first build

There is no chance I can see myself being caught dead with a smart watch and I'm a young guy. I just cant stand it but the strap is something that I could possibly justify if it provided enough utility.

looks like a horrible watch from a non trusted dealer. The only upside is that instead of showing gen pics and then getting a load of cr*p you will probably get what you see

Is there any chance that we'll see a 1016 case set with the correctly engraved lugs (not 14270 or whichever set it currently is noted as)?

Get the asian ETA, most of the swiss ETA watches are not swiss and if they are it's old stock that is pretty bad and in need of a service if you trust the vox pop 

Absolutely ridiculous, and I definitely know which one I want

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/171312-calibers-comparation-eta-mitota-and-their-clones-the-list/

Recent post here

Some TDs quote them as 37mm

Yes, but the Gen is 36mm

I have built a couple similar to what you are wanting but they are 36mm...

I think OP may be wrong with the size of the case as the DJ1s are 36mm

Thanks for the reply,

I apologize that I was leaving out some information.

I'm looking for one stainless steel $200-$300, new. 

37 mm, jubilee bracelet. Blue Dial. 

I want the most realistic replica, preferably from someone who has experience purchasing one of these from someone. I want the cyclops mag to be as close to the original as possible (2.5 mag). Thanks for your time. -H

Hi mate, thanks for the new information and apologies if I came on a bit strong.

As for your next step I would advice to look through the TDs here and decide who you want to go with. When you've made your decision go to their site and then to a page like this ( http://www.trusty-watch.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_12&sort=3a&page=6 ) and look through the list of DJs (apologies but it's a massive list). From there if you find your desired watch, great, if not hopefully you find something else in your search that you like. If neither of those are true then you're in the problematic territory of needing to franken / make custom and your budget does not allow for that currently.

Hope this was of some help

Mate, I'll give the advice of everybody. Read.

There's a lot of good information here and not many will just hand it to you if you don't try.

It's a stupid question for many reasons, such as

• We don't know the budget (Some people have unrealistic expectations of a $100 rep and other will sink upwards of $1000 on a franken)
• We don't know whether you want vintage or new
• We don't know the metal
• The Datejust is one of the most varied reps (and for that matte gens) in existence. 

Read up and you might find the answers, if not, try asking a better question or looking at the trusted dealers section and their websites.