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Just as an aside, if anyone has a couple of spare pins for PO 22mm bracelet I could use them. Tried to obtain gen ones but Cousins aren't stocking them yet......

I wouldn't diss the ebay one out of hand. Pearl looks right, the angles on the access holes on the end-links are there and the s/n quoted doesn't match any of the rep casebacks.

The joke is about 25 years old anyway, so 5 days isn't going to add much to the staleness.....

It'll be plexi-glass/acrylic, as per the original. Are you the sort of person who asks the tour-guide if there are flushing toilets in the pyramids?!

Two completely pointless additions. The 'crystal' of the original watch would have been plexi-glass, and the beat of the 2836 movement will be way faster than the original calibre. The Asia 17j movement will still be too fast, but closer. There is absolutely no sense in adding these 'modernities' to this watch as they just take it further from the concept.

Tha's a good old uPO. ETA judging by the datewheel.

This looks like the pre-decessor to the uPO. The history of the PO rep is well documented in here and this watch is well known. Bad date font, wrong pearl and badly misplaced He valve. The last of these is a fatal, uncorrectable flaw. Better to get a uPO and hang tight until a new dial comes around or try and source a gen dial. This watch should be killed off.

It's easy to tell if the springbars are 1.8mm thick as they will be a very hard fit in the strap holes. 1.78mm bars will slide in with a bit of effort and 1.8mm will require some soap, water and plenty pressure!!

Only issue I have seen with a uPO lite was a lot of free-play on the crown when trying to set the time on an example that had had the movement removed and replaced during some work to straighten an hour marker. It's not an uncommon problem with Asian movements in general after the stem has been removed and replaced a couple of times. ETA uPO never had the same problem (as long as you use the correct screwdriver and technique to remove the stem!!!!)

I don't get it at all. Can you post some pics? I've handled several uPOs from different sources and never encountered the issues you are describing. By your description of the strap it sounds like it has a manufacturing fault (ie. part of the embedded SEL is exposed outside the rubber).

Not forgetting their Irish cousin Ben Doonigan.

Only one thing to say... Super reps?! Hah!

Check out my post comparing the assembly of the two versions of this watch. When I disassembled the ETA and DG4813 versions side-by-side I discovered that both had (different) shortcomings in how the movement was secured. Both versions of the watch use the same steel movement holder, and with the ETA movement the clamps are used to secure the movement holder only - outside the anti-mag core. Nothing holds the movement to the holder. The Asian has the movement secured to the holder - under the anti-mag cover, but the holder hanging free in the case.

I think we are wasting our time here as nothing can or will be proved using photographs taken using different cameras under different lighting, and no-one is going to be convinced until they see it for themselves. In the end does it really matter anyway as the biggest 'tell' on the rep is the date font and incorrect model number on the caseback (all Link Chrono reps have the model designation for the white faced brushed bezel version).

Spot the shill

The news is old, and the post is spam...

I'm sure the salesgirl was only interested in your large............ wallet!

Don't trust the pictures. Trust me. I've had both versions stripped down on my bench side by side. They are indeed exactly the same watch, different movement (and hands, and stem, and datewheel). Oh, and the cheaper movement isn't an ETA copy, so please stop calling it one. It isn't even an ETA look-alike.

I am actually starting to suspect some fowl play with McLaren's strategy at Indy. All data showed that Alonso was fuelled more heavily at the start (based on his drop-off in performance between qualifying sessions) and should have been able to go longer in the race before refuelling, but 'safety car paranoia' led to him being called in only 1 lap after Lewis and losing this advantage. They actually short fuelled Alonso after the first stop (presumably they'd settled on their driver order at that point and did this to avoid a 1-2 becoming a 1-3) and switched his strategy, which is why he was further frustrated at then being behind his team mate. Alsono is not happy with his team as they seem to be making the decisions that are affecting the outcome of races. The cars and drivers are so evenly matched that they can make practically no difference to the outcome.

Did I not say that already...?! (Scurries off to swap the SS band on my Carrera Tachy Racing for the rubber one....)

We are still all so tied-up on this AR thing. So much so that people jump to criticise a rep automatically for not having it without actually checking that the genuine watch has it. Also, double-sided AR is not new. My Breitling Seawolf Ti (18 month vintage) has it, as did the Chrono Avengers of the time... As I said, we are not seeing anything new, just some rep makers getting their acts together a little quicker. The marketing strategy has changed and they are no longer going for the 'double dip' of releasing a flawed rep at a reasonable price that some will jump on, and then improving it bringing the rest on board and getting the original adopters to buy the 'next generation. Now they release the 'ultimate' version straight away and inflate the price, and the same initial band of people jump on but hand over three times the cash as before. Later adopters get the same thing at the proper market price once the novelty wears off a little. Silix pricing of the Ferrari PAM actually undercuts their own typical A7750 prices from about a year ago, so it just goes to show cartel pricing is all about greed - not improvements in spec.

It's taken me this long to chip in, but here goes. Super reps my [censored]. They are simply better than average reps at ever inflating prices. The supremely accurate rep is not a new phenomenon (despite the impression of the last six months). What is so unusual now is for a rep to be so spot on first time and to appear from one source only, which allows for premium pricing on release. Cartel, anyone?!?! I'm of the opinion that the 'early adopters' can pay what the bloomin' hell they like. Market forces will drive the prices down as the more shrewd buyer waits. Oh, and with regards to that premium pricing, Silix are now undercutting the cartel on a Ferrari PAM by $50.

When will people let go if this idea that everyone genuine watch has double-sided anti-reflective coatings? The genuine Omega Seamaster Pro you speak of currently comes with single sided (inside) AR coating only. At one time the genuine was sold with no AR coating at all!!!!!

There is no anti reflective coating on the gen. Rep is 100% faithful in that respect.

You don't know the half of it! I've never supported Ferrari. There have only been two previous occasions before this year that I have wanted a guy in the red cars to win. Mansell way back when, and Michael Schumacher the year it looked like Kimi Raikonnen had a chance of winning the WDC. I dislike Schumacher immensely, but I hate Raikonnen even more!