TeeJay

My 'Dream Rep' is the GMTSub I built myself... I can quite happily wear that day in, day out

If it was a case of everything being taken away, and only being able to choose one new watch, it would be the 'McQueen' Explorer II

Good post, excellent points T'J...........yes the 'melting pot'. However the 'melting pot' is now more of a TV dinner. Not sure if that aberration of cuisine translates, but here's a graphic:

You see, the veg is isolated from the mash, from the meat, from the dessert, by hard lines. It's not a meal as much as a collection of questionably nutritious food groups in one box. Trust me, it's junk. Once upon a time embracing the 'American Dream', which certainly differs in vision from a pre-war immigrant to the natural born citizen three, four, five generations deep into the thing and those who flood in now by kicking in the door and squatting, was all about taking stock in a Constitution as a common point to the 'Law of the Land' and seeking allusive opportunity for prosperity. Things worth disenfranchising yourself and family from cultural roots to meld into something new, be part of it and still bring who you 'were' intact. The assumed capitulation from the immigrant or natural born was best summed up by JFK at his inauguration "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". That's a very far cry from the current atmosphere of US 'entitlement' by not only a soon to be majority of it's citizens but also heaps illegal aliens.

Now, the US is an open air market, with no doorman, and no store detective. The shelves are raped for the easy pickens and the looters send the quick cash from the fenced goods back to where it was they came. They stock pile it there where a 'dollar' goes farther than the baht, or the yen, or the peso and count the days when they can return 'home', never wanting to meld with America from the first. They hold their noses and harbor disdain from the moment they waltz through Customs or jump the fence. There is no more 'melting pot' mentality, just self induced, deliberate aparthied from groups who come to the US to grab what they can because they think they are entitled or because it is relatively 'easy' considering from where they came. They are ignorant as to why France gifted us the Lady in the Harbor, what words are written on the plaque that sits below and what JFK was even addressing. That is merely one thing. The worse portion of the equation are those who were indeed born here, but have no more allegiance to the flag or want to contribute than the casual rapist with a H1B work Visa from the other four corners. I can kind of respect the former more than the latter. I think our new President is going to have a heck of a time motivating the masses to do his good work.

The oath of enlistment that the President shares with servicemen begins;

"I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..............." The fact it were written in that fashion is very telling to me.

So, Storm Troopers from Russia and bugs are the least of my worries. I know it is begging the question of the OP, but if arms are going to be raised, it will be Civil in nature, that much is part of the American psyche I can assure you. History has shown this to be true.

Still, that premise is decades, upon decades away. Not really worth a 'worry' per se`, but perhaps for my great, great grandchildren? So I will concur, perhaps the next big 'crisis' will be as you say, 'biological'. Still, what will it be?

SARS or Anthrax?

SARS or Anthrax? That shit's for pussies, Ebola's where it's at

I think you're absolutely spot on with your analogy, and indeed, the portions are isolated at the moment, but, that, to a certain degree, is simply Human nature, to seek out 'the familiar'. That's if you're looking down on the TV dinner while it's still in it's pre-packed tray... It's a different matter though, if that tray is to get 'upended' over a plate... Then things can mix together...

I was watching a show the other week on life inside US jails, and the inmates were explaining how, even though there is no 'officially implemented' segregation, in the communal areas, the various ethnicities automatically segregated themselves, so that in itself is interesting. I think you're quite right about unchecked immigration, it is without a doubt, a serious issue, both in America, and here in the UK, but, I can't see how the governments can 'put the genie back in the bottle', without all the bleeding hearts bleating about Human Rights. As far as I'm concerned, anyone has the right to want to move to another place to improve their life, but, as with all things in life, there must be criteria and qualifications to meet. The Eastern Europeans I mentioned before, are a prime example of how bureaucracy can be abused, when people from countries on the verge of EU membership entered the UK as 'tourists', only to then have their parent countries then gain EU membership, and then be able to remain in the UK as EU Citizens, even when, had they actually tried to emigrate through the legal channels, they would be turned away because of an inability to speak English. Just glancing through the court register of the local paper shows a startlingly high percentage of foreign names listed, and while the amount of foreign names is still a minority, given that it is still a larger percentage than they actually representing in the community, it shows how those people are only coming to a country to exploit it. I think you're quite right to say that there are going to be some 'civil wars' breaking out in the not to distant future, but I think you're being overly optimistic in your time-frame. I think if the global economy continues as it is, and if illegal immigration is not handled more decisively, I can see trouble kicking off within a decade. Even that, however, I do not think will actually lead to a total breakdown of society... That's what outbreaks are for

T, good to see you posting I hope all's well with you

I'm wearing this combo today, just for something a little different (the insert has had a new pearl installed since the photo was taken)

A definite case of PlanetOceanitis, but a very appealing watch I probably wouldn't wear the Rouge variant, but I do like how it looks

In 2045, the White Anglo European immigrant will be statistically a 'minority' in the US. Spend a day in Santa Fe de Bogota`, Colombia. There is a need for the WASP to be wary 'there'. There will soon be good reason for the WASP to be wary 'here'. In South Florida and Southern California it is already.

My Mother-in-law clips and sends a selection of newspaper clippings from the London Times as she comes across them that she thinks my wife will appreciate or find interesting. One cited; currently the fifth most common name registered to natural born U.K. citizens is Mohammed. That's a far cry from Trevor, John, William or Michael.

So pretty much what Manny said. I don't think the 'Red Dawn' moment will come as a paramilitary event depicted in the film. It will be a slow blossoming social affair, then, by mathematical progression and archaic immigration legislation, a flooding. So yes, 'biological outbreak' certainly. It won't be single celled organisms though. They will be very complex, and organised. Walking upright, or something close to it.

I read several years ago, that by 2010, white British-born people will statistically be a minority in London, and the first time in history that an indiginous population will have become a minority without war, famine or invasion being a contributing factor. America has always been an 'ethnic melting pot', so that doesn't surprize, or particularly concern me, as it has always been populated by a mixture of races, and it's no surprize that the demographics will change, due to genetic reasons. For it to happen in a primarily 'white' country like England, however, is more of an indication of immigration and other factors... I'm not sure how accurate it was, but in the movie SuperBad, it was stated that Muhammad (and spelling derivatives) is the most popular name on the planet. (Islam is also the fastest 'growing' religion in the US.) That said though, all that is going to lead to is a different social status quo, and not really something to have people 'turning survivalist'. Where I live in the UK, there has been a huge influx of Eastern European immigrants, even in the five years since I met my wife and moved to the area. Being from 'down south', I've always been immersed in multi-cultural society, and never had a problem with it, but it does make one take notice, when one cannot walk down the street without seeing large crowds of Eastern Europeans (and hearing their languages) when only a few years ago, there was not such a large immigrant community in the area. So I stand by my original comments: I'm more concerned about some kind of contagion (organized or otherwise) bring about a 'post apocalyptic' scenario, than I am concerned by things such as immigration or misguided fanatics.

If you are lucky enough to live long enough you will see many things you never expected. Having spent a good portion of 5-years service in places almost nobody can find on a map (even me at times) I can tell you the world is full of some very bad people. You only have to look at the 10-year transformation of Sarajevo (1984-1994) to see how things can go wrong very quickly.

If it ever comes here, I've got a room in the pickup for two more including gear and ammo. Wolverines BYOB !

Oh for sure, the world's definitely got some sick people in it, and, in their own way, they could certainly make people's lives a living hell, but for things to become an international (or possibly Continental) situation, it's going to be because of contagion, as confirmed by ChipSlap's comment, so it's things like that which concern me, much more than political/ideological skirmishes, simply because of their larger scale, thus greater impact globally...

I find it somewhat interesting that people seem to think that 'terrorism' is going to bring about some kind of post-apocalyptic existence. This reminds me of the 'fear of Communism' of the McCarthy era, and I wonder if it's some kind of reflection of the American Psyche....

Personally, I think the world has much more to fear from biological outbreaks and other forms of contagion (research labs, etc) than some misguided fanatics...

Those're fantastic pens, you've definitely mastered the medium Congrats on the new job as well

That's a good idea, it'll give me a good idea of how they feel. The downside is that I can't seem to find an AD that carries the AT. Thanks for the idea!

WR

No problem, glad to be of help Just remember the key words to escape the AD: I'm going to have to go away and have a think about this...

Wish I could be of help, but I'm afraid I have no idea... Welcome to the UK though

Awesome work, bro

The YM insert fit in the Sub bezel- just glued it in.

Excellent I was thinking of keeping the stock YM dial, as my goal was for a pretty uniform, monotone watch, but out of curiousity, where did you source the white Submariner dial?

I haven't had the pleasure of actually buying anything, as I had to cancel my pre-order on the Sea-Dweller as I didn't forsee having the spare cash when the time came. That said, both BK and George were awesome guys to do business with A big as far as I'm concerned

Fantastic rides

My first move would be to loot me a wetsuit, to keep zombie teeth away

If you're able, I'd suggest visiting an AD to try them on first. With the SFSO, when I tried one on, I felt that the dial was too small for the actual size of the case, like putting a Submariner dial into a 45 Planet Ocean case... It always looks awesome in photos, but when it came down to 'in the flesh', it just didn't do anything for me, so I'd definitely suggest a 'trying on' trip to help narrow your selection

I actually fitted a YM ss insert in a sub case with a white Submariner dial

It was definitely a one off type of thing.

Awesome Did you have to swap the entire bezel assembly or just the insert?

Thanks for the feedback, guys I wondered if the bezel insert would be a different size, but wondered if it might be one of those things which looks a different size, but actually is the same in practice I guess what I had in mind, was a 'toned down' Yacht-Master, ie YM Insert and dial, but in the more subdued Sub case

In terms of things like bezel insert, dial size, case sizes, etc, do these two watches have parts which are the same size, or are they quite different?

Thanks in advance

Something a little different for me today I've been looking for this watch for quite a while, but eventually found it today, and, the date wheel had actually frozen on the correct date, so all I had to do was correct the time I'm going to be going out/dressing up smart tomorrow evening, so thought I'd give this a little 'breaking in time' so I won't be fiddling with it all evening trying to get used to it

It's also been dressed thus:

I think one of the questions here is what defines a sports watch, I would say that most watches on stainless steel bracelets that we have these days, ie subs, ex2s, 3717s and so on look sporty on a bracelet but put them on a nice leather band and you have a nice dress watch as long as the watch was not too thick to start with, that rules out you 187s, DSSD and AP ROO but leaves a lot of room.

I think you're quite right, there, my friend

Here's my contribution to the theme

That's looking really nice Awesome acquisition

Sweeeet

As promised, here's the serial number for my vintage Sub (Silix): R863698