TeeJay

I had one of those, and if the slide still locked into place, I'd still be using it today

Some serious suspension of disbelief required in that movie Not bad to watch, but nowhere near as good as The Transporter... At least Frank was still wearing his Panerai. With an alarm

I always highly recommend a New Zealand movie called Stickmen. It's got absolutely everything, and is one of those movies you can just sit down and enjoy

I can't believe I missed this thread till now Like Pugwash, I have no problem with suspension of disbelief, as long as the film/show remains consistent to it's own rules. I'm also a huge fan of Jerry Anderson shows. Space:1999 was good, but UFO, where Straker would slap someone around every other episode was way better. Anyone catch the hospital sign for Dr. Farkov in one episode? Oh, and Lieutenant Ellis always made for easy viewing

Welcome to the party, from someone born in the south, but now living in't north

From the title of the thread, I was expecting a burnt umber-colored strap Nevermind, the watches are awesome I'm hoping to add a vintage Radiomir to my collection at some point

That's the kind of 'in-joke' mod that appeals to my sense of humor. If I was gay I would definitely want one *in best Eurotrash Ferrero Rocher advert accent* With these 'wrist checks' you are really spoiling us!

I've got to agree with Tootall here, that strap, to me at least, doesn't so much look 'vintaged/distressed', so much as just looking abused and worn out... Maybe it's just the fraying stitching, but if you put it on a pristine watch, I fear the contrast between brand spanking new and old, might be a bit too much to make a nice feature... But hey, that's just my .2c, as long as you're happy with it, that's all that matters I'm sure you'll love the 127 when it arrives, so wear it well [Edit for spelling]

Ha! You just couldn't leave it, could you! You had to think you were the one getting the last word in! What a troll you really are Just admit it, you got the wrong end of the stick about my motivations for wearing reps, and can't/won't answer the questions put to you in my last post because it would mean admitting you were wrong That's cool, doesn't bother me at all, but seriously, why bother anouncing that you're done? You think yours was the opinion people cared about? Just to help put my cheapness into a wider context, as it really is all pervading in my shopping habits, for my everyday wear, I buy unbranded clothes and shoes (although I am planning on getting some suits from Ken as the prices are comparable to what I pay for unbranded). I buy unbranded generic cola from the supermarket rather than Pepsi, because their taste is comparable, and I don't prefer Pepsi enough to generic to spend the extra pence for the brand name. Now, I am quite prepared to pay for an expensive item if I feel it is actually worth that cost, but, all the time I can have an identical/near identical product for less, I will always go for the cheaper option. And, once more, just so there is no confusion, I don't wear replica watches so others will think I am wearing the real thing, I wear them because they are the closest, cheapest equivelent to the genuine product, which, as illustrated above, I might like, but am not prepared to spend the extra cash for because I am indeed, to use your phrase, a cheap SOB Have a good weekend

That's for sure. I've always found myself to be a fairly good judge of character, but sometimes I've been swayed by positive opinions about someone from others, only to find out that the person really was a scumbag afterall (ala my fiance's Bio Dad ) At least this way, I havea reminder to remain vigilant, could serve an identifying purpose should the worst ever happen, and, from an aesthetic point of view, is much more interesting than wearing the conventional double dogtags as worn by US Forces Fascinating. It's always interesting when such anomolies occur in the news, it's just a shame that more breaking events sometimes push them to the back of the queue and people forget about them. Never been there, although I have been to Seven Oaks, so I could sit with a friend while they had a tattoo done Ahhh I just noticed your shoutbox about the 100% PMs. Did you get the messages I sent earlier about the straps?

Have to admit, I've also seen/heard my fair share of rings being the causes of industrial accidents, but fortunately, I don't have a career which would put me in such a situation where a ring could pose a danger (other than freak accidents like the lady who slipped...) An interesting story I heard on another forum was of a British dock worker who's watch strap got caught in a crane hoist, got pulled into the air (I forget how high), whereupon the strap gave way and he fell to his death

Ahh, I never got far enough into the immigration process to find this out Oh well, at least I have a momento which serves to keep me vigilant of others I remember hearing about that, but didn't realize they'd identified him as it pretty much drifted out of the news... Any other details on who he was? Smart lady

Having really only worn automatics (with the exception of a damaged automatic movement which required hand-winding) I've really grown accustomed to the handwinding of PAMs. Sure, it's nice to have an automatic on the wrist and know that it'll take care of itself, but, having to hand wind a watch leads to a somewhat symbiotic relationship with the watch. The wearer relies on the watch to tell the time. The watch relies on the wearer to wind it. I've never yet worn my 111h to the full extend of it's power reserve (as I didn't want it to stop and not realize until later when I might've actually needed to know precicely what the time was) so I tend to wind it every night before going to bed. Can't wait to get it back from having the movement cleaned

If only In all seriousness, about 3 years ago I very nearly emigrated to the US, but things fell through at the last minute. I was concerned that if anything happened to me while I was in America, and if I was mugged, then any ID in my wallet or passport would be gone, and I didn't really fancy winding up 'John Doe' in an unmarked grave, so I ordered a Canadian dog tag engraved with my name, date of birth, National Insurance number, and the dialing code for my parent's house from the US. The plans all fell through one evening when, I'd suspected I was being messed around, and confronted the person about it, and, indeed I was. The next morning, the tag arrived, so I took that as a memento to trust my instincts about people Pretty much. I use it as a signature on artwork I do rather than signing my name.

I always wear jewellery which seldom, if ever, comes off that 'appendage' for more than a few moments. I wear: 10mm Stainless Steel ring on my right middle finger 6mm engraved Sterling Silver court ring (engagement ring) on my left 'ring finger'. When I get married, the wedding band will be a platinum recreation. Haemetite bead bracelet (left wrist) Watch (right wrist) Canadian dog tag (like Hugh Jackman wore in X-Men but with my own details on it (emergency ID for when I nearly emigrated to the US 3 years ago, and kept as a reminder to always trust my initial instincts about people)) I've never been one for wearing tie clips or lapel pins, although I will wear cuff-links if wearing a suit. [Edit to add] I forgot to say tattoos as well. A tribal design (inspired by the design Snipes wore in Blade) across my shoulders, collar bones, neck and upper arms, and signature glyphs on both inner wrists(mine on my left wrist, my fiance's on my right) My signature glyph is also on the back of my neck, and was the first tattoo I had.

False choice. I never said that at all. You made a comment about supporting the forum, as if your support of the forum actually had any relevence at all, and made your opinion more valid than mine. I said you were pathetic for having that opinion. Not for supporting the forum. Quite a difference, but nice attempt to deflect the issue. So answer the question. What do I, and my opinions, matter to you? If nothing, why bother going into a rant about them? Not at all. Wrong. I said I did not like repeating myself when discussing my opinions, which, given the times I have discussed them, I would expect most people who regularly read the forum to be familiar with. Quite a difference there. Just to re-state things, you said: I replied: All you've done so far is throw one name out. WHere are these 'many dealers' that sell unbranded versions of their replicas? Sure people sell unbranded/clone watches on eBay, but they don't also sell the branded ones. Again, you made this statement, the onus in on you to prove your point. Sorry, you said "many". The two words are rather interchangeable. They both mean 'a lot'. As I said, I have not seen 'forum collectors' or dealers on sales sites selling unbranded versions of the branded watches which they sell. Homer is one of the forums 'recommended dealers'. The same comment as above. You admit your trolling behaviour. No I'm not. Where have I used juvenile insults? You've called me 'numbnuts' and 'tool'. I have simply pointed out what you are. A lurker and a troll. You even admitted your trolling behaviour above, by considering me 'your amusement'. You accuse me of making things up, yet are doing the exact same thing here: and: Your overall argument is flawed as you are working under the assumption that I wear branded reps so that other people think I am wearing the genuine item. I have said numerous times, that I do not wear watches to impress others, I wear them for my own pleasure. I have also said numerous times, that if someone actually cared enough to ask me about the watch I was wearing, I would tell them what it was (a replica) I also said, that thus far, no 'random stranger' has ever enquired about my watch, and that here, people do not tend to strike up conversation with others about their clothing. 150 posts since december. That's slightly less than 15 in a month. Barely one post every two days. That's hardly contributing to the conversations and community here is it. In your opinion. Others would disagree with you. And yet you didn't, and started acting like a troll. An average of 1 post every two days hardly qualifies as participating with conversaton, and as mentioned previously, forum support is irrelevent to this issue, yet you brought it up to try and make yourself and your opinion sound more important than mine. You did here, by your comments about my opinions, although you weren't really brave enough to just directly address them to me, instead, you used the typical troll tactic of making a comment and hoping someone would bite and respond. You admitted above that you considered me 'your amusement', so that puts your comments squarely in the realm of trolling. If that was true, why were you laboring under the assumption that I wear my watches to impress other people, or so they can make an incorrect assumption about me? I've clearly said several times why I don't like Clone Watches, and that an unbranded watch would not be 'visually accurate' to the original item which I like, and, as my issue is with commercialism and artificially inflated price tags, I want (for my own pleasure) a watch which is as reasonably accurate (in terms of form and markings) as the original, at a reasonable price for the item. If someone who collected reproduction prints of famous paintings was to buy a print of a famous painting, they are not going to want to buy one which has a key detail missing. They might, however, tollerate a print which is on poor quality paper, or a poor quality print, providing all the essential details are present. That is why I prefer reps which are essentially accurate (even if there are slight inaccuracies). However, the key issue which you have ignored, is that the only person I buy my watches for, is myself.

Such behaviours would certainly explain why some 'senior citizens' get a little 'incontinent' in later life

Personally, I'd say something along the sames lines as Esteban: The lines of the watch. Compared to other PAMs, it doesn't have a huge crown guard (which stops PAMs looking 'formal dressy') and the strap doesn't really attach to the watch by lugs, but the wires make the watch look almost 'suspended' from the strap, which gives it a more 'delicate' appearance. I guess on a NATO strap, it probably could look quite rugged and functional, but on a decent leather, it looks more sophisticated rather than rugged

And you think that because you contribute financially to the forum that makes your opinion more valid than mine? What a pathetic individual you are. Riiight. And my 'credibility' matters to you why? And me and my opinions, again, matters to you why? Sorry, but there's only one hypocrite here, and that's you, getting your boxers in a bunch because you can't get your head round an opinion you find too contradictory. I don't have to look anything up. You're the one who cited that loads of dealers sell unbranded versions of their watches. I pointed out that I have never seen any of the forum dealers selling unbranded watches, and asked you to name and link to examples. Not because I can't find the information, but because the onus is on you to prove your point. And how many others of the forum's 'recommended collectors' sell unbranded reps? So ignore me. I'm not the one having to resort to juvenile insults because I can't articulate myself properly. And before you try and use 'lurker and troll' as examples, sorry, but that's just describing you for what you are. Someone who lurks on a forum without contributing participation, and who trys to start fights for self-amusement. Try fishing from another bridge, I've got better things to do than try and further clarify my opinions to someone who's 'opinion' means nothing to me.

Practical too Not much point in a dial having luminous markers, if, when you're exposed to darkness, it doesn't actually glow Sure, holding the dial an inch from your eye and squinting works in a pinch, but it's hardly ideal

That pretty much sums it up, lurker. Deflection, inconsistency, call it what you want. What does any 'ambiguity' or 'inconsistency' on my part matter to you? At the end of the day, you're the one who's admited to being a cheap SOB and then started having a go at other people's opinions, so that makes you a hypocrite. You also said that many dealers sold unbranded versions of their watches, and when asked to provide links to such, you failed to deliver. You're a lurker, a troll, and not worth any more attention. Edit to add: I'm not responsible for what people think. As mentioned above, if someone chooses to think that a watch I am wearing is genuine, then that's down to them. If they cared enough to take a moment to ask me, I would tell them what it was. It is up to them to care enough to ask. Most people don't. Incase you hadn't noticed, I don't exactly buy Super Reps. Anyone with the slightest bit of product knowledge could point out the flaws on my Omegas and Panerai watches. I don't flash my watches about hoping someone will notice them and make a comment, as I've said before, I don't wear watches to impress others, I wear them because I like how they look. Also, brandname and product are two entirely different issues. A brandname can often be held to all kinds of standards which, in reality, the product itself simply does not live up to. Rolex Submariner as a case in point. A clasp made of thin, stamped stainless steel. Totally unacceptable for a watch of that price, and at the bottom of the table when compared to the manufacture of clasps by Omega, Panerai, Vacheron Constantin and others. Brandname says the watch is awesome, but the product itself falls short. Also, not that it's really any of your business or it really matters, but with the exception of the VCs and Panerais, I could have afforded to purchase all the other watches in my collection genuine had I wanted to do so. I chose not to do so, because at the end of the day, I don't think any watch is worth more than a few hundred dollars at most, and, just because I am not prepared to pay an artificially, corporate-set price tag, that is no reason why I should not have a similar, more reasonably priced product which I find aesthetically pleasing.

To be honest, the 112 was the watch I was really after, but my dealer didn't have one, so I 'settled' for the 111h. I prefer the look of the 112 as it's doesn't have the complication of the second sweep, it's just a clear, simple, plain dial with immediately noticeable, easily readable hands. Between the two models, personally, I think it's just a matter of personal taste as to which you prefer. If you're definitely trying to thin out the collection, I would suggest keeping the one which best fits your requirements Omega used to be my favorite watches to wear, but, the most important thing to me when wearing a watch, is that it's easy for me to read at a glance. Can't get much easier than a 111h/112

And so your opinion about what I personally feel or do is in any way valid how? You don't know me from Adam, I don't think we've ever spoken on these forums, so how dare you assume that you know my personal motivations better than I do. Oh shut up, and quit being facetious. Given that not many of my friends are particularly into watches, it was nice when someone actually recognized it, rather than it simply being ignored as 'a watch'. (bearing in mind we were discussing what I'd spent some inheritance money on and had handed it to him to look at) It was nice that it was something we were able to talk about for the sake of conversation. You might feel the need to constantly impress your friends, but don't project your own habits onto me. I don't, but I know that there are people on these forums who do. Personally, I let someone make up their own mind. If someone chooses to ask me about a watch I'm wearing, I'll tell them about it. If someone chooses not to speak to me, then that's their business. For example, about a week ago, I was sitting on a bus wearing a T-Shirt and a 111h. Someone sat next to me, and couldn't take their eyes off it. They didn't say anything to me, and I was more interested in looking out the window. Chances are they'd never even seen a watch like it so didn't know what it was, the issue of it being gen or rep probably never even occured to them. Perhaps where you come from it's common for people to strike up conversation with total strangers asking them about their clothing. Where I come from, it's not something people do. Yes, clone watches. I've commented about those several times before, which is why I find it tedious to have to respond like this to someone who chose to try and start something about an issue they could simply have read previous comments on. I don't like clone watches, because I feel the companies who make them are gaining the benefit from another company's experience, but passing it off as their own. Rep watches might also be copies, but they are at least still giving the credit to the original parent company. Name them and link to images from their sites where they do this. I've never seen any of the forum dealers, or dealers on sales sites selling unbranded clones. The only one I can think of, I've forgotten the name of, but they still brand the watches as Marine Diver (Panerai) and such like, and even then, they apparently deal more as a wholesaler than individual orders. For the reason I gave above. I like how a specific watch looks, so do not want something which has a different brand name on it. As I've said before, I'm cheap. I want the watch, but am not prepared to pay the price tag as I don't think they are worth the price the company sells them for. And you think your opinion is all that matters? Just because you don't agree with, or more likely, can't understand my opinion, that does not make it wrong. Good for you. I couldn't really care less what someone who's been lurking on the site for 11 months thinks of me. And yes, I am cheap. I've said that before on several occasions and don't deny it. As for 'deflecting the fact', sorry, but that's just not correct. See my comments above about Pepsi or clothing. This is not a philosophy that I apply to expensive, high-end products, but every aspect of my life. Oh, and given you said you were also cheap, what gives you the right to try and assume a moral highground? Why? My issue is not with the product, but the companies, as mentioned previously. I express my self very carefully on public forums, and have always been very clear about my opinions on such issues. Maybe you should take more care to read and comprehend what other people write rather than getting on your high horse. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. I do have an issue with having to repeat myself because someone either did not read, or could not understand previous similar comments I made. You said that you were a cheap SOB, precicely how are you a cheap SOB, and how does your opinion on such things differ from mine, or are you just being hypocritical and acting like a troll to get a bite?

What I'm wearing determines the watch I'll put on. At present, my default watch is my 45mm Planet Ocean. Once I get my 111h back from having the movement cleaned, that will be getting the priority wrist time, and, depending on the answer from my dealer, as my fiance bought me a 127 for my birthday (which is being returned due to a faulty crown guard lever) that will become the watch I wear most (for my own sake ) and will either be another 127, or a PVD 111h