TeeJay

Thanks, I'm glad you agree, and you're absolutely right about trying to pass off a rep in the wrong (or in watch terms, the right) circles is probably the quickest way to get called out. One of the guidelines I once read, admitedly, applies more to business environments, but, should also be considered in a more casual setting, was that the person tended to wear a rep of a watch which would be either within their pay grade, or slightly above (ie a treat with a bonus or win on the dogs) as that was the safest level to play at without arousing suspicioun. Indeed, most people don't care, all the time the watch doesn't stand out. But, get someone wearing a Rose Gold HBB while serving up fries, and that's going to raise some eyebrows. Same rules for social settings. If friends know how much someone earns, and knows anything about watches, they're going to be able to notice when someone wears a watch to a barbeque that should be way out of their league. As with all things, cars, watches, women, you must know your league and punch your weight. Of course, what someone wears in the privacy of their own home or out in public, is up to them, but if it's a 'social setting', it's best to be believeable, as, although that's not really passing the watch off as anything it's not, neither is it drawing unwelcome attention to it

I think you're absolutley right there, most people don't know anything about watches. That's why I feel, that if the majority of the people aren't going to really notice or care about a watch, unless someone really wants to try and pass their watch off as genuine (but again, as the people wouldn't know the difference, what's the point... ) what's the point in paying the price for the premium reps. I agree with Ken's point that if someone wants the watch to be accurate to gen for their own personal enjoyment, then fair enough, buy the more accurate watches, but, if they just want something that 'looks about right' and gives them a chuckle, why not go for an acceptable less accurate rep...

Is it not up to the person to buy what they want, rather than what others think is best? There are sources outside of this forum's 'recommended collectors'... As I clearly said, it depends what level of accuracy a person requires, how they intend to pass the watch off to others, and what flaws they find acceptable. The Planet Ocean I got on CQout might not be perfect (I've been told it's a 4th gen 45mm), but it looks good enough for my purposes, and cost half what the 'recommended collectors' are charging, so that's good enough for me. Could it be improved? Of course it could, but that's not the point of this thread. Someone asked which version to buy, and ultimately, that decision is up to them, based on which watch best suits their requirements. It depends if they want to spend a load on a more accurate rep, or if they'd be satisfied with a less accurate version. As I pointed out, the vast majority of viewing people in the real world are not going to even realize what watch it is, let alone that it has a wonky logo or the wrong strap... [Edit to add] And re: Silix, I am not impressed with their service. I've been waiting since the end of August for them to ship the correct dial for my vintage Submariner and the extra jubilee bracelet which I paid for when I made the order (which they got wrong) a few weeks prior to that.

Personally, I'd say go on CQout and buy the one you feel has the best look for the best price At the end of the day, all reps have flaws, regardless of who they're purchassed from, as afterall, they are replicas, not 'discounted gens'. The key to finding the right balance, is to consider what flaws would bother you the most. Are there any flaws which you actually prefer over the gen detail? (for example, I don't like how the 2220.80 SMP has a metal logo and Omega lettering, I think it makes the watch 'look fake', so I bought a rep with the lettering and logo printed. Sure, it's a flaw, but it's one I like ) Also, consider how important 100% actually is for you. Are you going to be telling friends, family and co-workers that you scored big down the dog track and try and pass it off as genuine, or are you just buying it as it's a bad-ass watch and you like how it looks? Please remember, that the people who make up watch forums, and who can spot flaws at a glance on photos, make up something like 0.01% of the general population. Sure, a watch might get thoroughly ripped on here, but, in the everyday world, the majority of people likely wouldn't even notice you were wearing a watch, let alone know the difference between a rep or a gen. Lastly, if you plan on passing it off as a gen, then you always run the risk of someone calling you out on it, and, if they actually know what they're talking about, in a social setting like a party or bar, that could be pretty embarassing... If you want 100% accuracy, either a) buy a gen, or b ) buy the most accurate you can find, and then start modifying it and swapping parts round. If you're not too bothered about accuracy, then pic the flaws you can live with, and just buy the watch which falls into that catagory at the best price Best of luck with your purchase

That's some good trading there, amigo Out of curiousity though, did any of those low-medium end reps have sentimental value like gifts, or were they just self-purchassed? I know entirely what you mean about being underwhelmed. Before I bought my Submariner rep, I went into a jewellers (family run, not really an AD as such) and tried one on. At the time, I was wearing a Casio dive watch on an aftermarket ss bracelet. I could've bought the Sub there and then (in I had the means to do so) but when I put it on, my honest internal reaction was "Is that it??!!" Sure, the watch looked nice, but it didn't feel like several thousand worth of watch on my wrist. My Casio weighed more, and had a better quality deployant clasp. I thanked the proprietor, left, and promptly ordered the rep I'd seen for half the price on EuroFakes (Yes, got hosed on the price there ), had the watch within five days, and kept the rest of the money the gen would've cost to go on vacation. That was what ultimately led to my interest in reps and other brands, but it also made me very conscious of the fact that at the end of the day, even a gen is 'just a watch', and it's aesthetic value is pretty subjective

Smooth move

It's certainly a good prop

At which point she asks: "Rolex?" He looks smug. "Oh Mee ga." "Beautifull..." Love that scene

Indeed, reps are reps, but, even a rep can have sentimental value if it was a gift

Or, you could put it back together, carry on 'roughing it up' a bit, and have a more 'vintage looking' Sub which is also likely to look like the real thing, rather than a recent purchase Hope it all gets worked out one way or another

Are there any other suggestions or theories as to what the watch could actually be other than a Daytona?

You're very welcome That's awesome news I can empathise with the 'no direct sunlight' rules... For some reason, natural daylight is the only thing which will trigger (and does so within minutes) near-incapacitating migraines. It's wierd, because no artificial UV does it, no kind of flourescent lighting does it, not even staring at a computer monitor for +12 hours will do it, but 5-10 minutes of anything brighter than 'overcast' and bam. Migraine. As a result, I wear sunglasses 99% of the time when I'm outside. Also, (not sure if it's related) but if in a car at night, I find the lights from oncoming traffic incredibly uncomfortable. It doesn't trigger the migraines, but it will make my eyes feel like they're about to explode sideways Oh well, at least when I eventually get round to driving, I'll be able to have fully tinted windows It's an awesome purchase, it does look really good Never good to catch someone cheating though Sounds interesting, I'm sure that combo will appear in a wrist shot soon Bit of a long story, but I'd promised watches to two of my best friends. I'd bought the AP RO for one, then changed my mind, ordered him a 111h, and figured I'd give the AP RO to the other. Now it turns out the 111h won't arrive before I go away monday, so that means giving one friend the AP RO as originally planned, and giving the E-B SMP to the other, as, he already has a quarts SS with E-B dial, so think he'd prefer the Omega to the AP. Of course, this does mean I'd get to keep the 111h when it arrives, but, I'm still waiting to hear back on an estimate for the repairs to mine, so that could mean I have two... If that does happen, then guess what will be going out on a Freebie Friday Not so much the size of your legs, just the angle and position I would expect given the angle of your foot I'd've exptected to either see your thigh (if sitting) between the bottom of the picture and the strap, or your foot between the bottom of the picture and the strap (if standing) It just kind of looks like an optical illusion [Edit to add] Just realized that your elbow is likely resting on your knee, and you're leaning forwards to get the shot... That makes sense

Great to see you back with the live wrist shots The PAM on Kangaroo in particular looks fantastic I know I'd been planning to build a White Seamaster as a dress watch, but, I might have to give the E-B SMP away next week (depends if ordered watches arrive before my mini-vacation) so I've decided to get a white-dialled PAM as a dress watch and combine it with my SS bracelet One question: On the last shot, your left foot is clearly visible above your hand. Where is your left leg??

To be honest, I don't know anyone who does... On topic, it doesn't really bother me if people don't wear a watch, as long as they don't keep asking me what the time is. "Time to buy a [censored]ing watch!" Oh, and people who are perpetually late just [censored] me off. I might leave things 'till the last minute', but I am only ever late if delayed by circumstances beyond my controll (traffic delays etc) where as my fiance, has something of a phobia of being late, so insists on leaving for things ludicrously early (I blame her bio-dad for giving her that neuroses, the [censored]rag) [Edit as profanity censor missed the word 'c**trag' ]

Might just be my imagination or a trick of the light, but in the screenshot, the bracelet on Paul Newman's watch doesn't look like anything Rolex built, but rather one of these... Intersting that Omega would bid to keep hold of their own watch... Surely they could've just taken it from the production line to their museam themselves, and for much cheaper than bidding on it

Looks damn good to me

You're more than welcome. It's an interesting item Is it meant as some kind of meditation aid/paper-weight/blunt instroment, or just a 'holiday 'nick-nack'?

I think that's the best way to 'wear' a gold watch...

To be honest, no. There are only a couple of (literally two) watches in my collection that I could do without owning. All the others, have some kind of sentimental value, either as gifts received, bought with inheritance, modified myself, or, in the case of my least 'attached' watch, (the SMP 2220.80) completes 'a collection' (the watches worn by Daniel Craig in Casino Royale) The only watches I could do to lose, are my Rolex Daytona, and my Omega X-33. Even then, I'm unlikely to get rid of the X-33, as it's a reasonably rare watch to have, and, I know that at some point in the future, it will serve as an 'outdoor pursuits beater', (although it wasn't purchased for that reason) For me, the attachment is to the watches themselves and what they represent (as gifts etc) rather than any accuracy or favoring one more than another, and, there's not really a 'grail watch' which I really want enough to sell the collection to aquire. As I'm not particularly bothered between rep and gen, there's nothing really unaffordable which I can't aquire in rep form. Also, as mentioned above, there can be instances where a watch is received, and simply doesn't have the desired impact. I had this happen when I bought a VC Overseas. Lovely watch, I just couldn't stand to wear it, so instead, I sent it to a good home

That's an awesome outcome I'll have to bear that in mind if I'm ever in such a situation again

Would that actually work? I have to admit, I only thought it applied if nothing was received at all. I quite agree with your point that I didn't receive the item (which I ordered ), but I still got 'something', which in all fairness, would probably have been satisfactory to some. My beef was primarily that I didn't feel the product filled the claim on the sale (of being indistinguishable from the original) It was quite a while ago, (nearly a year) so not really much I can do about it now, and to be honest, it wasn't for much money, I just don't like how eBay continues to allow the scammer to list auctions, despite their misleading content... Oh well. Allah will judge him

Awesome combo, I can't wait for my 127 to arrive Out of curiosity, what is the ball you're gripping? I've never seen anything quite like it before.

I ordered a strap from Silix about 8 weeks ago and am still waiting for it...

I've sliced my thumbs up a treat before trying to open a Submariner diver's extension. Once it was a bit more used, it became easier to operate, but initially, it was near impossible and frankly, dangerous to operate. The diver's extension was one of the key features that made me start viewing Omega as a better engineered watch than Rolex.