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JF 16610LV vs. Gen early 16610 (orginally thought a 16800)
manodeoro replied to Pombok's topic in The Rolex Area
NOPE ... or unsure You have to set TIME (not date) : - counterclockwise >>> 3035 - clock wise >>> 3135 And to be completely certain you have to check the engravement @6 ... So could you please ask your friend ? I suppose when the PO writes "Wings on SEL" he refers to the "wings" of the endlinks If the only differences between a 16800 case and a 16610 case proved to be only : - the height of the rehaut - the "Rolex ..." engravement on the rehaut - the drilled lugs then I would consider that, albeit QueTip clear-cut opinion, that the JF16610LN could be a good start watch for a 16800 build (not Franken of course). @QueTip ... You said everything is wrong on a JF16610 case for such a build I'm not tying to argue with you ... I am just here to learn about watches So could you please explain us what is definitely so wrong (besides the rehaut height, the engravement and the non-drilled lugs) ? -
Thanks for the feedback ... I'll ask Ken to quote me the lumework. About the 6249 dial rarity I would say YES !!! That watch was, as far as I know, sort of a stripped handwind 34mm Explorer I. I'll use that one as a start watch ... or probably it's twin sister because since I received it I really enjoy wearing it. I'll have to rework the cade and bezel and pop the cyclop off. I'm still trying to source a correct (an affordable) handset but it seems very difficult to get baton hands the same lenght and width as Commando hands. So if anybody has an idea just fell free to PM me [emoji16] Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Today is D-BLUE day Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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I had a 6538 and a 5513 left together in a drawer. I wonder what they did but here's what I found this morning. Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Kent did a wonderfull job and considering the quality $142.50 is a very fair price IMHO. Do you know if he works on rep dials ? I have a DIY 6249 Commando dial and I'm quite certain my skills are far to low to lume that one correctly. Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk Stupid me I think, cause Whoopy dials are REPs ... aren't they ? Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Great watch and great build !!! Congratulations [emoji4] If you dont mind I'd like to know how much Everest Watches charged for the relume (which looks quite perfect IMHO). Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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JF 16610LV vs. Gen early 16610 (orginally thought a 16800)
manodeoro replied to Pombok's topic in The Rolex Area
+ 100 Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk @Pombok ... if you can check the engravement in the case @6 you only need to remove the bracelet. Its the only place, as far as I know, where the 168000 have the "+0". Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk -
JF 16610LV vs. Gen early 16610 (orginally thought a 16800)
manodeoro replied to Pombok's topic in The Rolex Area
Sorry for self quoting ... and@QueTip will correct me if I write compete [censored] [emoji6] Movement ??? @Pombok ... could you ask your friend if he can check which movement is in his watch ? If I'm true ... 16800=3035 / 168000=3135 I think it can be checked even whitout opening the watch. On a 16800 the crown should sit about the center height of the case. On a 168000 the crown should sit a little lower ... the 3135 movement being a little thicker. Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk -
JF 16610LV vs. Gen early 16610 (orginally thought a 16800)
manodeoro replied to Pombok's topic in The Rolex Area
Apart from the 904L vs 316L and the ref number on the case @6 ... How can one distinguish a 168000 from a 16800 ? @Pombok Could your friend check the ref number @6 ?.. 16800 or 168000 ? Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk -
Worth the price paid ? Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Does somebody have the "Vintage Rolex Sport Models" book in pdf ? Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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JF 16610LV vs. Gen early 16610 (orginally thought a 16800)
manodeoro replied to Pombok's topic in The Rolex Area
My 2 cents about DIALS ... It all depends on "how old" you want your 16800 to be : - 16800 production years are about 1979/1888. - "early" 16800s (1979/1984) came with a matte dial with paint/lume indexes (3 sorts of matte dials : MARK I / MARK II / MARK III) - "late" 16800s (1984/1988) came with a glossy dial with circled indexes (white gold circled). - glossy dials are supposed to be used only since 1985 but the "Comex" 16800s (1984) came with glossy dials. So, depending one the period you want your 16800 to be, and the money you want to put on your build you may have to : - modd your 16610 dial to a 16800 glossy dial (that's what I did) - modd your 16610 dial to a 16800 matte dial - swap for an aftermarket dial (only matte available I think) - swap for a gen dial (matte and/or glossy ... rare and $$$$$$) For my "year 1984" 16800 Comex 16800 I just kept the 16610 dial and modd it : - popped the indexes off - sanded the dial to get it completely blank - chamfered the date window - designed a 16800 dial with Illustrator (with "COMEX" branding and "SWISS-T<25" text) - printed the design on white decal paper - placed on the blank dial - sprayed 5 coats of glossy varnish - put the indexes back on I really think I could have done better but ... once again ... that was my very first complete build and a 150$ project altogether -
@Pombok ... It would be nice if you can tag me too cause I'm really interested in a 16800 build thread. My first 16800 build was a VERY low budget cause it was my first complete attempt to build a watch : - first time I modded a complete dial with circled indexes - first time I drilled and chamfered lugs - first time I reworked a case - first time I sanded a rehaut - first time I engraved a caseback - so many first times ... I just bought a BP11610 and 2mm bars and did all the modds myself so I kept the project under 150 $. At the end I know the watch has many flaws but I'm still really happy with the result. Now that I have improved my skills a little I'd like to build a better one, probably starting with a JF16610LN. Here are some more pics of my 150 $ build
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You must stop showing that beauty ... It's not fair Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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16800 Comex / BP16610 YES ... 16610 has a slightly deeper rehault and a thicker crown. Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Honestly ??? Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Nice watch !!! again Is it the same one or a twin sister [emoji16] Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Nice watch !!! Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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The engraved rehault is not a real problem as it can be easily sanded. The dial of the JF16610LV is much more a problem because of : - big indexes (16800's white gold circled indexes are smaller) - "swiss made" instead of "swiss-T So I would wait for the JF16610LN that should come with small indexes. Then the main problems will be the "swiss made" and the non-drilled lugs ... but all that can be modded. Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk I wrote I would wait for the JF16610LN but ... I'll probably buy the LV too [emoji7] Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Nice handwind 34mm Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Rolex 6610 Explorer with a R-E-A-L gilt dial !!!!! Pure Beauty !!!
manodeoro replied to rolojack's topic in The Rolex Area
And wonderfull !!! Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk -
So which is "the trick" ? On most 6538 it's quite easy to remove the spring because of the "gap" between the bezel and the case. But how do you when there is no gap ? Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Could you confirm if the chrono works or not and if the pushers are well aligned or not (to high or to low) ? Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Wonderfull !!! But I would say "ADVANCED beginner" cause one need some skills and experience to make a build like this one. Envoyé de mon XT1068 en utilisant Tapatalk
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