Watchmeister

If I were a dealer I would be reading all the various comments in this and Eddie's thread and deciding who I want to do business with. After all you can reduce at least some of the risk by deciding who is going to be reasonable and who may jeopardize my business. Ultimately, if the risk of seizure has gone up and it is pretty much universal folks should be expecting either price increases from the dealers or them actually disappearing. After all, this is a business with the added complexity of it being illicit.

I certainly have noticed that the general environment whether in the US, China or wherever appears to be getting more difficult. And I suspect the turmoil around the world will make it more difficult. As those risks rise I would guess the dealers will have to be more particular as to who their clients are and what merchandise they elect to carry. At least some portion of the membership has a healthy respect for what dealers are going through. And no one should kid themselves, if folks like Eddie and Andrew are suffering losses for various reasons they are going to have to increase volume and/or prices to make it worth their while or they will exit the business. Like any other business it exists so long as it pays for the dealers from a risk/return perspective. IMHO the comments to wait for the2nd and 3rd generation are increasingly working backwards. Second gen 196's are inferior to first. Although far cheaper 2nd gen 187's have markers falling off, second and third gen 2892's are fast becoming 2836's as the movements disappear, etc. But overall the bar keeps rising. Also to the extent that dealers begin to form a loose cartel or at least communicate directly that may well minimize the obsolecense risk as they can decide what generations of watches they will stock. It amazed me that within days of selling the IWC Jones a better version came out with more accurate movement. The interesting thing is that all of the great work by our dealers here have resulted in client expectations for reps exceeding expectations for most other gen items purchased on the web. If the environment is changing for the worse communications like this are helpful because it helps us, the ignorant consumer, understand what is going on.

MBW are high end Rolex reps. The vintages take OEM parts so you can make them as close to the gen as you want. Do a search and you will find plenty of info.

Fabulous pics.

Sorry to hear about the problem but that is about as easily remediable as possible. Try Ofrei or Cousins.

I know.

Angelus movements are typically in desk clocks and those are pretty readily available on Ebay and in old watch/antique shops. The tricky part is that the clocks and the movements come in different sizes and forms and no listing for a desk clock tells you which Angelus movment comes in it. But I am very jealous. Can't wait to see it mounted. WM mounted one in a vintage 47mm and promptly sold it for $3,000.

Beautiful watches. The 2892-A2 power reserve also has a two lense cyclops system but for whatever reason its magnification is not as good.

Looks great.

Quarks- May I? Eddy- Dream on.

Not to scare everyone but there is a blank space on the first Watchonpo page and the price shows 100,000 yen.

Well, if you are not asleep you must be sauced. Isn't that the British term. Anyhow, I am in for two. My PVD case is on the way back from Palp on one and the cyclops is already mounted.

Watcher- Mine has the same hole for the spacer. I have no doubt there will be a 7753. Same lifecycle as 196's. Not alot of money in the 7750 187's anymore so I am guessing (and I stress guess) that they will be here sooner rather than later. In this case "greed is good".

I give.

Suffice it to say Archibald is a long time and valued member of this forum and one thing he is never is inaccurate. I don't need to verify anything. By the way, I have had nothing but good experiences with Andrew but it is clear that on this transaction he whiffed. Sh_t happens. Archibald- I have no internet acccess for a day and I miss all the good stuff....

It just gets better and better in your house. My collection is relegated to the basement.

As has been said, anybody who knows what the watch is and what it should say on the dial will no instantly that it is a rep. So, no worries.

Congrats. You are well on your way to WISdom. This is a fun, albeit expensive, habit.

Since she wears her watch on her right hand the easiest way to get it back will be to buy her a Destro. She will be so enamored with a left hand watch that you will get yours back in no time.

It will be solved right around the time people stop buying the 7750 version. It is funny how it works that way.

mikellem- I had fun doing this (my wife has officially declared me mentally challenged) and it is something I came up in lieu of doing the typical collection shot. In truth I have never successfully had the majority my watches in house at the same time. Then again I do only have two wrists.

Thanks for the compliments. I would be remiss if I didn't pass on a humrous PM I got from a good friend here on the forum when he saw the post: Although the 187 survived the ride it is too funny and too true. I am still lookng for the license plate from the last time I really rocked out on it.

Thomas- Travel safe and have fun. All the best, Kruz

The earlier version is clearly the best. I bought it way back when and swapped out the Asian for a Swiss found out I couldn't swap the datewheels (rings for you Brits out there) and the stock wheel on the Swiss was closer to the gen. Luck over skill, baby For anyone who owns one take a look at RepAustria's refinishing of the case. It is phenomenal. Not being as skilled as he I simply polished it up and that improved the case color and lustre.

Swiss unless the Chinese fabricators have elected to add a swan neck and it even looks like the next gen. I had noticed that too but have not ordered from Paul since oriiginal crazy sale. It is cheaper to buy the whole watch and transplant the movement than to buy a movement only from others.