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By-Tor, Great review, but how about this one Euromariner TT, it is the Rolex Noobmariner TT best parts combined with the MBK case. So the best of both worlds

Pics with the Clark Crystal installed and fitting perfectly...

BTW the above is a V3 = Lugholes + no engravings... V2 = Engravings, no lugholes V4 = No Engravings, no lugholes pics of V4 below

By-Tor how does it look now with a new CLARK Crystal + gasket installed... going to be the next standards on Euromariner line....

We going to replace all crystals to CLARK crystals which makes it even closer to gen, on the WM9 the biggest flaw on the Crystal is the HUGE etched crown at 6 oclock... on my Euromariner it is quite smaller but still VISIBLE so we're going to upgrade our crystals. The GEN etched crown you basically cannot see with your bare eyes...it is almost invisible (unless your superhuman ). So we'll swap all crystals + gaskets to gen specs 1 piece Gasket + aftermarket CLARK crystal which has GEN specifications.... and NO etched crown at 6 oclock. This will make it the closest to gen for repstandard! The CLARK CRYSTAL is known to have the exact same DATE-MAG 2.5x magnification at 3 oclock as the GEN... so this will be only good. We might do a pearl upgrade as well, to an Watchmaterial Pearl, pearls are on its way. Take a look at an SAMPLE V3 Lugholed ETA based EUROMARINER with CLARK Crystal installed.. Btw, we also got Euromariner TT already made take a look here

The gasket ring is not broken, it is a different design, it has 2 gaskets, (so not 1 piece that is broken in two.... it i just two) where the gen has only one piece gasket... It is hard to explain but it is slightly different design.... the way they put together... anyways I will improve it by putting in a generic crystal (without etched crown at 6 oclock ----which will make it closer to gen----) with ONE gasket like gen (instead of 2 gaskets) and the exact same date-mag 2.5x as genuine and as my current date-mag 2.5x.... So a new mod is on its way... I have ordered it already one sample crystal and gasket if this works out fine and easy.... all new euromariners will have a new aftermarket crystal at no additional cost to the client.... so You want the best.... We will get you the best! Thanks to Tribal for helping and educating me on the improvements that needed to be made! Thanks Dirk (tribal) it is thanks to him that I got the nice design you guys are seeing. It is like a communual project And more exclusive projects are on its way!!!

Nice stuff.... great one... few mods are you good to go. gen or latest ahem "unannounced" euromariner v4?

So you guys think that I should replace the crystals on the Euromariner with CLARKS? I think I can have that done... if it looks closer to gen. I would like to improve, I didn't make these cases but I would like to improve them if at all possible so I can give the clients best there is... Got the Euromariners btw without rolex engravings V4... and lugholes V3... don't want to officially announce it yet as I'm very very busy at the moment. Check them out below... let me know your guys thoughts... http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn154/e...ez/Euromariner/ At Im2, contact me, I'll pay for your clark crystal But which one should I order, 295 c1 or c2???

Don't know what to say Ken, please take care and take all the time in the world. Couldn't imagine myself in your shoes... we all feel your grief... Take care my friend... She's going to a better place.

Here's mine

I read this whole thread and I learned quite alot again... Btw what Ubi said about the washer it is in your SRSD it hides inside/downside of your bezel if you take a look at the picture. I learned that that washer thing you can bend a bit to make the bezel turn more smoother when it is too tight... or you can make bend it a certain way to make it more tight if it is too loose. and @Tr4driver, please try to keep the watch in new-state / unworn, untouched so dont take everything apart and back on etc etc, if you wish to return it and swap it for a new one because if damaged (and the glass / caseback scratches quickly) it is hard to replace. I could also sent you a dial or whatever if that is easier more convienient for you... please contact me by e-mail. Thanks in advance. rgds chris

Hi, Tr4driver, Just woke up and didn't see this thread otherwise would have responded much earlier, a good member pointed me towards this thread. I actually did wrote you back, the same day I heard that you got a mix-up. Please check our spam folder and we'll sent out the reply again later today (have to find it). I apologise for the mix up, my forwarder (since it got shipped from within EU) I told him to sent a DRSD but the SRSD and the DRSD look much alike to a non-vintage expert like my forwarder he just forwards my watches.... I apologise sincerely for that and I'll get you the correct one (that is basically what was in my e-mail sent to you)... It is indeed and MBK 100% sure, look here it is listed here in my section as well. Yes for the record a mistake has been made on our part --i'm not perfect and never claimed to be, I should have been more specific with my forwarder--, and yes I take full responsibility for this, shipping cost back --is on my cost-- and sending the correct DRSD. For vintage I only sell MBK and only stock MBK vintage as the chinese is just below my standard and most of my customers standard. The SRSD is fully inspected already containing a genuine ETA 2836-2 movement --I only order MBK with real ETA, there also available with COPY-ETA fyi-- CLICK HERE liste at nr 12 - modelnr MBN-RN-013 it is an SRSD

Yes! We can get the latest version with Correct spelled ROTOR. Any dialface or any material. See below... OLD VERSION ---wrong spelling--- NEW VERSION

Welcome Hornma, and happy hunting Let us know if we can be of any service or advice to you. Thanks Capice and Highz.... for kind recommendations!

Nice watch, nice review, nice pictures.... from a nice guy! Thanks By-Tor...

Hi Vlydog (bruce), No problems... How have you been, got some great news for you my friend it's about the 551x.... contact me info.eurotimez@gmail.com Sorry to go off topic Regards Chris

Altho I cannot account for other dealers and there practises, asnwer to your Questio: YES, we do. We placed them in afterwards if needed! as sometimes some watches or certain periods cannot be attained with real ETA. We guarantee verified Genuine ETA movements (if ordered...... duh )! COPY ETA (remove it) GEN ETA (afterwards installation) GUIDE how to differentiate between the two...

There is not much to add for me then what all other forum members said... We all feel your pain... sorry to hear this man... I saw the thread before but I didn't wanted to open it as I know it "wasn't" something I would enjoy reading. Just wanted to let you know that this story and you sharing your experience in such a way did HELPED me personally and I also think it helped alot of other members put things back into perspective. You should always cheerish what you have right now, and life right now, because it might be gone or changed suddenly, life is more than things you can see, own, or wear around your wrist. Only advice I can give you is... "don't resist" your sadness or your loss as it would make it only harder for you (as weird as it may sound), accept that you feel this way as there is nothing wrong to feel sad or feel hurt when such things occur. Get well soon. my condolence Chris

God Ubi, that looks gooooood..... I just love this shot Clear perfect example of the things you can do with EUROMARINER/MBK/WM9 case... Ubi is an Wm9 case Again Ubi.... WOW!

If you can look for an 1655 bezel (haha it is an vintage explorer MCQUEEN Rolex bezel)... I'm looking for one Tks for keeping us posted.

Hi Manuel, Nice to see you again my friend. Only thing I can say is.... VERY SOON! ---I received a date of completion at least 3x but with rep factories and the underground rep-world we're in nothing can be 100% sure--- The latest word (yesterday) is that cases (non-engraved lugholes, and just non-engraved) are ready just the engravings are going to be done and we need to have a nice 6 digit nr (any suggestions guys?) F or Y serial I was told. I got stock in EU btw for the Euromariners DG with engravings for european members like yourself Manuel The Engravings they really look nice in Real-Life tho, even the hardcore anti-engravings guys like By-Tor and Kelster mentioned that it looked didn't look FUGLY in real life, its just the Pics that are zoomed in like that. I personally kind of like it as its modern and barely notice it while wearing mine.

Pricey?! Well it is the "CHEAPEST" MBK-based modded, fully inspected watch that is ever brought out in history. ---FACT--- (keywords: Cheapest MBK based, MBK, MODDED, FULLY INSPECTED) The MBK case submariner with less accurate dial with genuine ETA movement = 400 usd -fully inspected-. (wrong DW, less accurate Dial, too big datemag. lesser solid midlink bracelet) The Euromariner which beats the hell out of the MBK submariner starts at 275 usd, which all of the above with DG 2813 (21.6k) movement. 275usd and it's modded from 2 watches into 1 perfect euromariner. So IMHO it is not that bad. Again it is MODDED and FULLY INSPECTED. If you wish you can change it to an DG4813 (28.8k movement) we provide this movement (DIY install youself) for only +25 usd, so you could technically own 28.8k Euromariner at 300 usd (with MBK case and spare 2813 movement). Advantage if movement breaks down etc, replace it like battery, movements are very affordable and can get everywhere so you're not dependant on the dealer. Or if you know how to mod you can place your own ETA movement inside but the dial-feet and hands won't fit so you need some modding skills. Or if you want to go extravangant go for ETA option, which is 475, again actually only 75 usd more than the standard MBK submariner at 400usd option (with the flaws listed above). For all noobs MBK is expensive far more expensive then Chinese reps, and will always be EXPENSIVE so.... what can I do? Do volunteer-work I'm a dealer for pete sake! I'm suppose to make money lol... just kidding guys but I think you get the picture.... besides it is cheaper than WM9 (+/- 575) and it is better too IMO (same reasons as MBK submariner). Nice thing to keep in mind, put in a genuine bezel-insert and shave the CG and your good to GO! We leave you plenty of room to play around... what fun would it be if there wasn't anything else You the buyer could do.

Hi Lotsofgears1, The gen rolex is not so fond of AR coatings, so for the submariner they never made AR and for 99% of rolex watches are without AR. I think only the new MILGAUSS is with AR crystal. So if gen doesn't have it, my euromariner doesn't have it. But feel free to have it AR coated if you wish and have a unique Submariner new MBK case = same WM9 case MY sources confirm it (MBK) and Tribal confirms it... (what else do you need) few facts.... ---MBK cases comes from Taiwan, where coincidentally the WM9 case is coming from? ---MBK submariners and WM9 submariner came both with solid midlinks? Coincidence or same factory?!? ---and how much better than this can you get? Euromariner same demensions as gen, fits the, gen crown without mods, gen crystal, gen bezel-insert, gen bezel and case -----------construction? I donno man, if this doesn't cut it.... then go for the gen And as you can see the Euromariner Beats the WM9, -Euromariner comes better bracelet with hollow midlinks, -better dial (noobdial = most closest to gen), -noob dw, -noob hands, -customized perfect datemag.... -at a better price, -with added QC and rubbers silicon greased.

General prices??! I might be interested in some GEN 16610 (submariner SS black) or 16613 dials (blue) dials and how about an EXP II white dial? Glass crystal for GEN 16610 ? Please let me know and thanks for sharing this info.