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Hello, I'm Steve, I'm back, I've done a lot of GEN and replica Rolex models comparisons, it's time to check Rolex's little brother Tudor, LOL！ ZF recently just released a new Black Bay GMT M79470, so let's take a look and see what ZF has done with this new product, by the way, you can also get a closer look at the authentic Tudor workmanship details, after all, it is Rolex's little brother, I think it should not be bad. Enough crap now, and if I don't start again you'll think I'm an old lady, haha. Front view of the dial In terms of color, there is no second pure black in the world, so there is no need to worry about color difference on the black dial. As we can see, there is a small crack on 6 marker in the gen since it has been scratched when ZF replicas the model for the marker. But this is enough to see that the ZF factory is doing a true 1 to 1 replica, even a small accessory need to be disassembled to replicate, so as to do the closest. Bezel side view Gen bezel is made of frosted steel, the surface frosting treatment of ZF bezel is still very good, very delicate, the edge of the transition to the side of the rounded smooth processing is also very good. Crystal side view The chamfered level of the crystal side and the GEN are also very similar, and the height remains the same. Bezel numeral view The shape of the ZF inked numerals is well controlled and consistent with the GEN, but the slightest shortcoming is that some of the numerals are a little off the outer edge, but the good thing is that it is hard to notice with the naked eye. In addition, because the GEN is worn and used, the inked numbers on the bezel are stained with oil and dust, so it looks shinier and the surface of the numbers look untidy, while the ZF looks more comfortable. Side view of the markers The ZF maker is made of Super-Luminova luminescent coating to make a whole stick marker, and there is no difference between the shape and size of the GEN scale. In addition, you can see that the triangular scale and the bar scale of GEN have a white edge at the bottom edge, which is not perfectly recovered by ZF factory after using GEN scale. Lume filled view The lume fill of the GEN hands is very granular, while the ZF lume fill is lacking and is slightly raised in places. The GEN markings are where the grain filling on the surface has been scratched out. It is very easy to damage such delicate accessories by using authentic 1 :1 replicas. You can zoom in on the second photo to see that the surface of the ZF circular marker has the same texture as the gen. It is very crystalline and View of the oil-printed font on the dial The font shape of ZF dial is also very good, and the color of the yellow font is almost colorless compared to GEN. Hands Central axle view Due to the different construction of the movement, the center pin of the ZF hand is slightly higher than gen.and the hand stack is incorrect (ICHS) But on the other hand the black sandblasting is very neatly finished. the sandblasted parts of the gen are already leaking fluid. I don't think it was originally intended to be this condition. It should have been damaged in the process of previous replication. After all, it's a $4,500 Swiss watch, so there's no way such poor detailing could have occurred. Date wheel veiw The shape of the date wheel is very well made by ZF, with the same beveled slope as the gen. And the date wheel is also Full-bodied and three-dimensional. However, the seconds marker at 3 o'clock is a little short. In addition, you can obviously see that the ZF calendar digital position is a little down, this is just a little problem in the assembly of this calendar wheel we used for the shooting caused by, I also check our recent QC photos, to confirm that this is just an example, you do not need to care, as long as the QC check clearly on the line. Side view of the crown ZF has done a great job on the edges of the crown teeth, which are as rounded as the gen. And the engraving of classic Tudor plum logo is also stereoscopic clarity. Side view of the case There is nothing wrong with the ZF case shape either. And the curvature of the case and the lugs are also the same as the gen. Back case view The back case teeth are also very well finished by ZF. However, the length of the bevel on the side of the back case is slightly longer compared to the gen. The good thing is that the distance to the naked eye is actually quite noticeable. Engraved view of the case back and lugs The engraving on the case back is very close to the gen in terms of depth and coordination. The numbered engravings on the lugs are particularly good, as they are difficult to distinguish even when magnified to macro. Strap detail view The overall fit of the ZF strap is excellent, with relatively small gaps. The clasp polishing is also very well finished. The adjustment length is up to 8 mm and the feel of the adjustment is smooth, just like the gen quick-adjustment mechanism. Factory engraving on the inside claims to use the same stamping process as the gen. There are differences in the actual carving marks, but in terms of depth and shape, they are very well done. Lume view The lume color of ZF is the same as the gen and there is no difference. Movement view The movement of gen is Tudor's own MT5652, and the ZF applies the Asia 2836 movement. ZF one does not have a brass plate or engraving to imitate a gen movement. The balance wheel is also in the opposite position to that of the gen. But for models with a solid case back, this doesn't matter too much. After all, no one would be bored enough to open the back of your watch. What do you think about it? Comparative view of data Note: All watches are measured in a clamped state, and there may be errors due to the slight deviation of the position of the caliper. In addition, GEN intercepts the strap, and the factory has a steel strap protective film that has not been torn off. The ZF is identical to the gen, except for the weight, which is slightly lighter than gen. Well, that's it for today's post. On the whole, this new Tudor from ZF is a very well made and high quality replica watch. There are still a few things that are not perfect, but we can't ask for too much more than that. After all, this model is only made in the ZF factory at the moment. We don't have to be too hard on ourselves. When there is no choice, it is actually the best choice. On a side note, the market for this non-popular model is relatively small in itself. Regardless of how well it's actually being done, it is already giving us a few more options that a large factory is doing it. At least we won't be confined to a few popular models when it comes to choose replica watches. Finally, thanks to the guys for watching. Please correct me if there are any mistakes. If there is anything else that I have overlooked, please feel free to ask and I will add as much as I can to it. Illustration: Some photos deviate from the real object due to the light source. For details, please refer to the content. The size of the comparison picture is relatively large, you can download it and enlarge it for comparison. There is no perfect replica, only the one you prefer. Thanks. Steve.

Hello, I am trying to assemble a Tudor. Please can anyone suggest a seller for high quality Chapter Ring, Ceramic Bezel Insert and a Dial for Tudor Pelagos? Also, is it possible to fit Black Bay Dial in a Pelagos Case? and last but not least, anyone pointer for custom dial site to fir ETA 2824 many thanks

Ladies and Gentlemen - I am in love with this piece!!! I might opt for the gen in time (gotta save up like a normal person lol) but wondering if anyone has seen or expects a quality rep? https://monochrome-watches.com/tudor-black-bay-fifty-eight-39mm-79030n-review-price/ Seems like everyone is focusing on the boring new Rolex 39mm models....and this fake 904L steel. Lame. Do you guys like it?

Gloriously long name Tudor Black Bay Bronze Blue

Hi guys, Really need your input! Got this one some time ago, but have no idea if it's Gen, it's should be.. at least it looks nice. Thanks in advance!

Hi guys, Really need your input! Got this one some time ago, but have no idea if it's Gen, it's should be.. at least it looks nice. Thanks in advance!

I recently lost the pearl of my cartel Tudor Black Bay. so I ordered a bezel insert from Helenarou. Color is slightly different depending on light angle. Snaps right in. I didn't even need Hypo Cement or anything. Just wanted to let you know as I myself like to find this kind of information.

It's here, Just released the Tudor Heritage Black Bay in Bronze Trusty has them, not sure whom else does at this time, but this should be popular... http://www.ttw8488.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=14986

Hi everyone, First time post after a while lurking, can't rate the place highly enough. Been looking for a rep Tudor Black Bay Black but wanted to ask those of you who have bought any reps a few questions I've seen many versions on the black bay going all the way to v4. But these only seem to apply to those carrying the red bezel (beautiful but not to my taste). Has anybody here bought a black bay black they would recommend? And how does it compare to the various "v2/3/4" red versions? Any one willing to share pictures or emails of dealers you purchased them from would be really appreciated! Thanks guys

I would like express my appreciation to Sead which help me to purchase this Tudor BB Red from ZF . Initially I have ordered IWC Laureus Sport For Good foundation but the marker on 12 is not aligned hence have decided to change to BB. It took 1 week to arrive and the watch is very sharp and very nice IMHO except that the dial seems very dark compare to all picture that posted in forum. Sead have been very patience to let me run through all QC pictures , raised up all concerns and looking from a better option from the IWC Laureus to Tudor BB. To me it is very important during the purchase process. Highly recommended to deal with Sead!! After resize the bracelet and oil bath, it is good to go and really to be wear during New year eve party!! Happy New year everyone !!

The Black Bay is a beautiful watch, gen and rep. That said, what stinks is that the Pearl is a giveaway, and so is the dial. Raised type and texture missing on the rep dial. I wish they fixed these two things and I would buy buy buy. Does anyone know if these have been updated on the newest version?

Hey gang, just found this interesting link on the Bay while looking for some parts for my Snowflake Franken... There is a seller in Singapore that is apparently making custom solid stainless end links to be used on Tudors like the Black Bay and Heritage chrono, so that there is not a gap between the case and strap with bands and NATOs. Kind of expensive, but I thought it a neat idea for some of us that are really a bit anal-retentive with things like this. >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-STRAP-END-LINKS-FOR-ROLEX-TUDOR-BLACK-BAY-BIG-BLOCK-THC-AERONAUT-GMT-/321252671142?pt=US_Watch_Bands&var=&hash=item4acc26bea6 (Note that I am not the seller, nor do I know the seller, but thought that it was an interesting idea, albeit a little expensive for some non OEM parts).

My Bezel on the Black Bay seems to have way to much play in it. Is this common? Any know fixes besides Dental Floss?

Various close ups of the dial and hands Crown Bracelet clasp Case back and SELs My thoughts on it so far; overall it is a very, very nice rep. the dial is lovely, as are the hands. The talk about being able to see the difference in the gold colouring of the hands and the dial markers - I can't see it in the flesh. Maybe there is a slight difference in the colour of the lume (in daylight) but it's more obvious in pictures than in real life. Bracelet is lovely and solid. SELs fit snugly. Clasp is nice and positive - if anything it's a little too tight to undo the main clasp. Like a lot of other people have commented, the bezel is slack (side to side movement) and the ratches is "almost not there", and this is the major negative. Downsides i've noticed:- * Bezel, weak click spring, side to side movement (a user has taken up the slack with a piece of coke can cut to a washer shape and has reported a huge improvement) * Clasp - a bit tight to open, but with wear it will become just perfect. Also if you look at the clasp image showing the three holes for the micro adjustment, I think these holes are a fraction too small and the spring pin doesn't seem to fit into them properly - a bit of a concern as if the spring pin comes out, the watch may drop off your wrist. * Crown - it has approximately 1 turn from thread engaging to screwed down - not much and I hope it's not another Omega PO crown thread disaster - a little bit of TLC, smoothing the threads and a touch of grease to try to enhance their longevity will be a good thing. * Bracelet screws - This is really the norm for any rep bracelets with screw in pins. They're made with low tolerances, and so as soon as the pin has been screwed into a bracelet section, they'll force the threads on both parts so they "mate" with each other. If you are careful and put the pin back into the segment it came out of, it goes back in nicely and without any problem. Mix the pins up and force them in and I bet the threads will strip very quickly. Just common sense really. Overall : I really like it. Very good job, and for the price, a damn good watch!

Just received this watch a few hours ago. Had to post a few pics and first impression thoughts. Now i cant compare this to a gen, so all observations are general. I compare fit/finish against other reps like Pam111 and SOSF v2. Bracelet: Was very "rattely" upon arrival. I soaked it in Rock n Roll lube and washed it off. Now if feels very good. No hard edges. Clasp snaps in as it should. SEL fit and endlinks are just great. Case: It collects fingerprints like an iphone screen! I find myself polishing the case with my shirt all the time. The inside corners on the lugs are razor sharp. Maybe its possible to sand thoose down. Otherwise the case is good, sits great on the wrist. Crystal: AR is good. Better than my Noob 111, but not as good as the SOSF v2. Its raised but i don't think its as doomed as the gen. I think.. Color hands/indexmarkers: We know they are not the same color. But you wont notice this on the wrist. This is a non issue. Dial: Just great. Pure class and good execution. Bezel and pearl: Biggest letdown of the watch. It turns pretty easy, but its a 60 click bezel. Maybe it should be like that, but im so used to 120 click bezels so it feel strange. It also feels "sheap" when you turn it, it has a bit of play and the pearl does not center 12 marker with a click. Its between clicks if you know what i mean. pearl is centered and looks good. I know an updated pearl will be released, i don't see any reason to change this pearl. A non issue for me. Conclusion: I have waited for this watch for over a year. Been following the RG thread daily. I had high expectations. But when my boss bought the gen i told myself that this would be a C&R. But im not so sure anymore. Its a stunning watch with a lot of character. The grey dial and gold hand is just purse sex. Its a small watch, but wears pretty big. This is something ppl notice. The feel of the watch is very good, im starting to really love it. I highly recommend this watch. Go get it Now on to the pics.

Hello Gents just a quick post to let members know that the raffles are the real deal and please believe you can be a winner! I never win anything and this is very exciting. I'd like to share a few quick pics! Again Thanks so much Mike, RWG, and all the members that made this happen!

Just a quick post regarding the recent purchase a friend of mine made. This is his first forray into the luxury watch market and he got himself an excellent deal on a Tudor Black Bay from a local AD. He shot me a message to show me a wrist shot and a couple other pics but was concerned because it wasn't ticking. He had given the watch a full wind of about 20 crown rotations, given it a gentle shake to get the balance going and he still had nothing. He assures me that there is resistance when he turns the crown so it's probably not a mainspring break and when he shakes it he describes the watch as "trying to sweep" normally, even without the main spring being wound you will get 5 seconds of sweeping just from the natural oscilation of the ballance wheel. but he's not getting even that. I suggested the possibility that the hair spring could be damaged or the balance could be binding and unable to move and if even one reducing gear is binding then the movement will be dead. Do any of our experts have a suggestion as to what could be wrong with this watch, this is just out of curiosity as he plans to have the watch exchanged for a new one and wash his hands of the problem. and for the record, this Black Bay on the distressed black leather strap looks incredible, I just love it and am kind of jealous.

Is any factory will making rep Tudor Black Bay? still don't hear news for it? do anyone know? thanks