paneristi_man Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Hi all, I'm thinking of buying a mont blanc fountain pen from PAM111.com, but not sure of the quality. Has anyone on this forum bought pens from PAM111 and could you give me an indication of how bad/good the pens are? Or put another way are the pens as good as the watches? Rgds Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I personally would not recommend any rep fountain pens. The nib is usually bad , the piston too and therefore the writing is rather bad. Some of the roller ball ones are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paneristi_man Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Thanks AMK. Did you buy it off PAM111? I am not aware of other dealers in this forum that sells pens besides pam111. Sorry to be specific in this case. I just want to stick to dealers in this forum unless you can recommend a good dealer for rep pens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker01 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 phoband makes excellent GEN pens! Search his stuff here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllergyDoc Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I have dozens of gen pens; Mont Blanc, Parker, Waterman, Visconte, Nakami, and others I can't remember. I have 2 rep pens. They were both crap. Both were rollerball and ran out of ink within a week. On one, the cap won't stay closed. The other one, a Mont Blanc RB from WBK, is just pure crap. If you're looking for a fountain pen, you can get a decent Lamy for under $100, or a Nakami Vanishing Point for about $120. I have too many pens, all you need are a few good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If you want a replica pen, get a rollerball that can take genuine cartridges. That way, you can make it write exactly like the gen by going to a stationers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramerica2 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If you want a replica pen, get a rollerball that can take genuine cartridges. That way, you can make it write exactly like the gen by going to a stationers. How could you know that before the purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 There OK, nothing to write home about! Sorry, I'll get my coat........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 How could you know that before the purchase? Ah, there is an arcane method that is known to the mystics. It's called "asking". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramerica2 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Ah, there is an arcane method that is known to the mystics. It's called "asking". Tried that method.. the answer I got from the dealer was that he had no idea, but they use generic cartridges. Does Montblanc (for example) have standard refills? Is there a standard in that field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gioarmani Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 The rep nibs on the fountain varieties are absolute shlt. Stick with roller-balls & buy gen refills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polynomial Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Limited experience here, but good with a fountain pen Cartier rep from Josh, it was one of the more expensive one, I am using it every day for nearly two years now, works like a dream. Now thinking of getting an MB rep too. I noticed Paul has different models then Josh, so not sure, but those from PC I can strongly recommend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paneristi_man Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Thanks all for your great replies.From what I am hearing it seems that best bet to stay away from rep pens, as the overall quality of these reps are not up to scratch esp if it's a fountain pen.I'm not keen on the ball point pens as I used the cheapie ones everyday. Guess it'll have to be a gen Lamy or something along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paneristi_man Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Ah, there is an arcane method that is known to the mystics. It's called "asking". true but you need to know who to ask. Not all dealers give you correct answers some just give you plain BS.... which is why i prefer asking you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Guess it'll have to be a gen Lamy or something along those lines. Lamy make excellent pens, but in my opinion their fountain pens are all too high-tech looking. Purely a matter of taste & opinion of course, but a traditional writing instrument like a fountain pen should look traditional too. If that's something you can relate to at all, then you might want to check out Waterman as well. A Hemisphere or Harmonie can be had for $100 or so and are both excellent pens (which I've owned). If you want to spend a little more, Waterman Expert Deluxe is my preferred writing instrument. At $160 it's not extortionately priced and for that you get a fountain pen which really is about as good as they get. The ergonomics are excellent (in my case at least), the nib is first class and extremely smooth in use and the black lacquer/gold finish is positively delectable as far as I'm concerned. The shop links, by the way, are simply from the first result Google gave me. You could well find them cheaper elsewhere for all I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 It's not like your life depends on perfect inkflow. Stick with the rollerball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paneristi_man Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 It's not like your life depends on perfect inkflow. Stick with the rollerball. likewise why buy a luxury rep watch , why not get yourself a timex and stick to that? it's all a matter of taste. to each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedo Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Agree with the general concensus that rep pens suck. Got a couple, and had not only the issues with the nib mentioned, but the treads were just not up to par either, they lasted all of about a week each. For fountain pens I have ended up getting a picasso which is very nice for the price, Chinese brand, paid $45 for it which came with a display box too. Although not as good a quality as the $200+ pens, is very nice for what it actually costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Obviously they are not all the great in use but bine worked fine (old ink types) but newer use them anymore (use keyboard instead) as they are mostly for the eye..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paneristi_man Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Obviously they are not all the great in use but bine worked fine (old ink types) but newer use them anymore (use keyboard instead) as they are mostly for the eye..... Yes I used the keyboard mostly too but a nice pen on one's desk is more for the eyes....and the occasional signing of documents . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Thanks AMK. Did you buy it off PAM111? I am not aware of other dealers in this forum that sells pens besides pam111. Sorry to be specific in this case. I just want to stick to dealers in this forum unless you can recommend a good dealer for rep pens? Well, I have never bought from PAM111 (I did 5-6 years ago when he was Paul). As other members have said. Stick to rollers that can take genuine refill. You can get pen from Phoband and Narikaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat247 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I just bought an MB fountain pen from Narikaa and for $5 (or so), I can't believe the quality. My wife even used it and commented on how nicely it writes. I have a dozen or so gen fountain pens and the one I got from Narikaa is arguably the best value and out performs ALL of the gen pens I have which cost less than $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramerica2 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I just bought an MB fountain pen from Narikaa and for $5 (or so), I can't believe the quality. My wife even used it and commented on how nicely it writes. I have a dozen or so gen fountain pens and the one I got from Narikaa is arguably the best value and out performs ALL of the gen pens I have which cost less than $100. Could you tell which pen exactly (a number could help) are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I've been using a MB rollerball rep pen from narikaa for a couple of years now. It is my daily use pen, and sits on my desk at work. I have replaced the original refill (which didn't last long) with a Parker (several times now). Great feel to it, very heavy, a pleasure to write with. For the money, it's a no brainer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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