prdubis Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Hi, Josh has just released these: http://www.1-pc8838.com/0rlsv01004-vintage-1680-white-asia-2836-best-p-9479.html Are they the same sold a while ago by PT? Those "new" ones seem to have a correct bezel construction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Those "new" ones seem to have a correct bezel construction... so they say, but if theyre like the PT 1665 you still need a special ring for the crystal. from my observation they need lug drilling, and proper end links. it also has "open 9 and 6" wonder what kind of case tube is installed only one way to find out! someone buy it! i am curious about the bracelet but i cant see any clear pictures of the clasp. if i had to guess id say this is the same factory as the PT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiman12 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 The 5512 doesn't look too bad at all. I'm going to pick up one up for modding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsuperman17 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 how do they compare to the mbw??? is it a good starting point for modding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Its interesting, but it seems as though he has the 5512 and 5513 reversed. Perhaps I am mistaken, but I always under the impression that the 5512 was meters first and the 5513 was feet first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 For roughly $200 you are getting a case (that needs mods), and a hollow mid bracelet that is OK. You have a high-beat ETA clone which is wrong as well. A dial, crown and insert that IMHO need replaced. If these "Jumbo" crowns are the same on the PT 1665, then the tube will accept a Gen crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 how do they compare to the mbw??? is it a good starting point for modding? out of the box wear it may be good, but if youre going for modding, for less than the $200 asking price you can get an MBK case which you KNOW fits gen parts and has the lug holes in the correct spot. bracelet unknown (endlinks are wrong) but the rest of the watch youd be swapping out all the parts anyways, might as well start with a good case. in the long run for the modder this watch may cost more than starting with the better MBK which i can personally say fits a gen dial and others have even fit a gen movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robaer Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I had a quick look at the 5513 and it seemed to have a better crown height than the mbw which has the crown too low. And the crown guards didn't look too bad either. But I agree, you still need a new dial, new hands, and a new crystal. If the crown is bad you need a new one also and why not a new tube to go with it... Vintage projecs usually are expensive, especially if you mix in gen parts. By the way, where do I find an MBW case under $200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I had a quick look at the 5513 and it seemed to have a better crown height than the mbw which has the crown too low. And the crown guards didn't look too bad either. But I agree, you still need a new dial, new hands, and a new crystal. If the crown is bad you need a new one also and why not a new tube to go with it... Vintage projecs usually are expensive, especially if you mix in gen parts. By the way, where do I find an MBW case under $200? crown height on the MBKs arent actually that bad observe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnipz Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Ya where do we get the mbk, I am looking for a tudor sf case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Its interesting, but it seems as though he has the 5512 and 5513 reversed. Perhaps I am mistaken, but I always under the impression that the 5512 was meters first and the 5513 was feet first? Red- There was meters first and then feet first for 5513's; meters first came earlier in production and feet first then superseded. 5512 is a chronometer rated no-date model whereas the 5513 is not. That is the major difference between those models. most 5512s have a dial that indicates the Chronometer status, but earlier examples (like the gilt dials) may not (some do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I've ordered one two days ago from Connie and she sent me today the QC pics... Not bad at all for the moment, have a look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Endlinks are 580, bracelet 93150 but it has the wrong fliplock... What about the dial? Insert and crown look ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 dials ok looking. hands, insert, endlinks (both appearance and fit), and especially the CGs are crap. the cgs and crown make it look like a seamaster/ ceramic sub. itll be interesting to see the case construction and quality. does this fit 2mm bars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Ordered mine today, this watch has a gigantic crown.. Gen seems large too. I didn't notice it in the pics at first but now I see.. Hopefully it will accept gen parts. Here's the pics the vendor sent me. Edited December 8, 2010 by tonyp1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I actually think the dial is fairly decent- I like the open 6's in 660 and the 6 and 9 markers aren't too narrow. Crown needs to be swapped out and the cg's need work, but that's par for the course. End links need to be swapped out and the insert is certainly better than those god awful MBW inserts! Lugholes might be too small but it's hard to tell from a pic. If it accepts gen parts, it will be fine. For $200 you can't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gileto Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 You're right, 5512 mbw needs new insert, Im looking for one... But the crown is ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebzen02 Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Is there a way of modifying the crown to make it a bit thinner..like trimming from the inside with a dremel? Also, if we were to drill the lug holes. What drill bit would you all suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I use a #55 cobalt drill bit from Snap-On tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Ordered mine today, this watch has a gigantic crown.. Gen seems large too. I didn't notice it in the pics at first but now I see.. Hopefully it will accept gen parts. Here's the pics the vendor sent me. the crown is too large, and the crown guards are too short, it'll never look right because of the cgs. the gen in the picture has a 702 crown strong beveling makes it look larger than it really is, youd most likely end up with a 703 since a gen 702 tube is impossible to get. IMO youd replace the insert on both the MBK and this new one. gen inserts snaps in on the mbk perfectly and sits recessed. dial is better than the 5513 MBK stock one from what i can see. lug holes seem to be a bit high, and will probably need widening Edited December 8, 2010 by highoeyazmuhudee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robaer Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Sharp eyes. I missed the short crown guards. I hate when a promising budget alternative has such a big turn off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebzen02 Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 +1 big turn off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) Crown Is way too large and cgs are too small. But the cgs wouldn't look as bad with a smaller crown. Look at this gen. Edited December 9, 2010 by tonyp1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Crown Is way too large and cgs are too small. But the cgs wouldn't look as bad with a smaller crown. Look at this gen. youd have to fit a 702 tube and crown to achieve that, is it really worth the headache? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) youd have to fit a 702 tube and crown to achieve that, is it really worth the headache? LOL no. I'm just going to add the watch to my collection. I think its still a neat watch. Not accurate. But looks to be a nicely made watch. Edited December 9, 2010 by tonyp1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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