slickdick Posted December 9, 2011 Report Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) clone 1570 = urban myth sorry - there is none out there .... must be the same source that claims that there are 1:1 Rolex Reps out there Back in 2005 fake eta also was urban myth, lo and behold what we have here... Edited December 9, 2011 by slickdick
Tribal Posted December 9, 2011 Report Posted December 9, 2011 This sound really good to me! Is Angus the only source for it? I had allways trouble buying from him. No other trusted dealer carry this movement?
cib0rgman Posted December 9, 2011 Report Posted December 9, 2011 I would like to see a picture with rotor in another position, i do not think is a complete clone there are still some differences..
southcoast68 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Posted December 9, 2011 Here are three differences I see right away (circled in red), a.) balance mounting size, b.) jewel size and c.) keyless works a bit different. At the keyless works, the release button for the stem is in a slightly different position leading me to believe that the stems do not interchange (a problem if you damage one in installation). The other two instances may not be a big deal, unless something there breaks during tear down and servicing. I think just the fact that these movements can accept genuine cases, hands, dials and date wheels without modification is the major draw for folks in the rep world and the other minor stuff fades to the background. I think most will find difficulty in using these for the following reasons; Using ETA - Using an ETA movement was comforting to us since if it broke, it could be serviced with readily available parts, even though we had to use spacer rings and such to make them work in projects. However, with more restrictions in getting ETA movements and parts, would servicing ETAs get more difficult as we move forward anyway? Using Asia or ETA clone - Using these was comforting to us in the fact that they were for the most part, pretty good runners, and if they broke, we could just chuck them out since replacement movements could be had - for cheap. Using this SA3135 - Using this movement worries us since it is new, largely unproven, has proprietary parts, is expensive to buy, and currently only available through one vendor that we know of. All this and the fact that is would be inappropriate to use this movement in a vintage build since it is a high beat rate as opposed to a low beat rate. With all this being said, I think I can predict that Angus over at Pure time is going to be busy filling orders this Christmas season One of these needs to make it over to The Zigmeister for a full writeup and performance study. Cheers
watcher Posted December 9, 2011 Report Posted December 9, 2011 This sound really good to me! Is Angus the only source for it? I had allways trouble buying from him. No other trusted dealer carry this movement? Joshua told me a better version is coming soon but do not know when and I guess the new superduper! Seadweller 16600 may have the same movement inside, probably after Chinese NY!
coolfire Posted December 10, 2011 Report Posted December 10, 2011 Joshua told me a better version is coming soon but do not know when and I guess the new superduper! Seadweller 16600 may have the same movement inside, probably after Chinese NY! That is exactly my wish! Sent from my SGSII
SDREW Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 I came to this site specifically to help spread the word, the Asian 3135 is not a 3135, it is a modified 2836-2.....they are very different in size. There is no money in cloning the 3135, clearly there is in the 2836-2, and modifying it to look like other movments is further proof that it is. I'm from the Homageforum, not a rep guy, but thought I'd at least clue everyone in on this after I read one of your member bought Rolex parts to fix his movement, non of them fit!!
SDREW Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) Also....I've collected authentic vintage Rolex for 20yrs....and recently got into Omega, purchased a 1970 1st generation Seamaster 600m PloProf(it currently has a replacement 3rd generation dial)but has the 1st generation bezel and the cal1001 movement. Edited June 2, 2012 by SDREW
Jkay Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Also....I've collected authentic vintage Rolex for 20yrs....and recently got into Omega, purchased a 1970 1st generation Seamaster 600m PloProf(it currently has a replacement 3rd generation dial)but has the 1st generation bezel and the cal1001 movement. Hi bub! Welcome to the forum. The 2836-2 look-alike decorated movements are about 2 years old now. The 3135 1:1 super clones were released about 6 months ago and are not the same thing. I appreciate your concern tho, and anyone who spreads the word to help others is a good guy in my book.
speedbird100 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Did anyone ever track down of they're gonna clone a gmt movement
Logan Posted June 3, 2012 Report Posted June 3, 2012 @sdrew, you have actually looked at the pictures of the movement we're talking about right? As this thread has repeated stated it's NOT based on any eta movement, It really is a part for part (well almost) clone of the 3135. The only significant difference is the genuine has a free sprung balance with tiny weights on the balance wheel. The clone has a traditional hair spring regulator.
rosnik Posted June 3, 2012 Report Posted June 3, 2012 I came to this site specifically to help spread the word, Try to look for SA3135 .
Guest watch4king Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 any more news on this movement? Any experts take one of these babies apart?
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