briank996 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 In bulding up a watch that doesn't have a date function (Explorer) would it be wise to remove the date function from an ETA 2824? Also, what are the options for doing so and would it impact reliability in any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 Removing the date wheel and the drive pinion is easy enough.., you will still have the middle click when you pull out the crown, would be very hard to eliminate that. The crown will freely turn in that middle position so it won't feel like a date adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robaer Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I had had the middle click removed on my ETA 2846 for my 5513. I don't know if my watchmaker also remove any other date related parts though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjjoyce1 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 Removing the middle click involves filing the center ridge out of the setting lever jumper (part 445/2). Takes a bit of patience and finesse, but with jewelers files, a loupe, and a steady hand, it can be done easily, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgiv Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 The easier solution to taking out the middle click is to use part 445 from a 2801-2 movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briank996 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 The easier solution to taking out the middle click is to use part 445 from a 2801-2 movement. That's a cool tidbit of knowledge. Did you use this mod yourself? Any downside? JMB mentioned that "With the "bumps" filed off the set lever there is nothing to positively hold the stem in the winding or time set positions so it makes winding or setting the time tricky until a technique is developed." Wondering if the 445 part would resolve this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 yes it will if you can get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgiv Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I have used that mod on a 2846 used for a 5513 movement. It works perfectly. I have never filed the middle click off but I can't see why it would affect the stem. The setting lever is what holds the stem in the movement and you are filing the setting lever jumper spring. I would be more concerned about getting it filed smooth so there are no burrs. Maybe someone else can comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 You can find the mod to eliminate the middle click here http://www.rwg.cc/topic/140936-how-to-mod-a-eta-2846-2/page__hl__2846__fromsearch__1 I removed the day and date wheels on my ETA 2846 and all related parts, and it works great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I guess I misspoke, filing the bump didn't make the time-setting "fiddley" but required some inward pressure on the crown while hand-winding or the stem might slip out to the date-set "area" which will cause it to "free-wheel". The "spring" contains the detents that keep the mechanism latched into whatever mode you want. I think I'll order one of these parts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I just remembered I have a no-date 2801-2 left over from the TZ Level 1 school and I looked at this part and it's very different than just grinding off a bump. instead of a missing bump it has a "notch" for each position and sort of a triangluar shaped bump between the two. This gets rid of the date position and still keeps a positive detent for winding AND time set position. I've ordered one from Borel to see if this is actually what I get, or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 instead of filing it all i did was buy a used $10 swatch auto off ebay that comes with this feature in their 2841 movement, removed the keyless and put it on the 2846, sorted! the seller: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SAK101-Swatch-1992-Auto-Red-Ahead-Classic-Artistic-/350553156915?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item519e98ad33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 instead of filing it all i did was buy a used $10 swatch auto off ebay that comes with this feature in their 2841 movement, removed the keyless and put it on the 2846, sorted! the seller: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SAK101-Swatch-1992-Auto-Red-Ahead-Classic-Artistic-/350553156915?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item519e98ad33 I wonder what the part number is for the date setting lever. Hate to resurrect old posts, but have been looking for the part number for a few days to revive some gen 2846 movements into no date ones. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 http://www.tztoolshop.com/page30.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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