markiemark Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Ok fellow pilots! It took some waiting, but the Mark XVII is now available with an SS bracelet!http://pureti.me/product/mark-xvii-11-best-edition-ss-black-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a2892-/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromag Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Nice but can we just order the brackets separately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted November 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Nice but can we just order the brackets separately? I think Angus mentioned something like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 No, he cannot sell the spare bracelet yet. I just got an answer from Angus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromag Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Maybe it does not fit well on older reps either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I would like to try on my XVI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromag Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Angus just confirmed that he cannot sell them yet because there is Limited supply. He also said that the bracelet would not fit the original lug holes for the strap version if you had an old strap version. The bracelet on the XVI is much different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Yes Cromag, I am aware it's different but I d like to try the new bracelet, finishing looks very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromag Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Yes Cromag, I am aware it's different but I d like to try the new bracelet, finishing looks very goodIt's just so obvious that it will not fit the XVI unless you made a typo and meant XVII. Edited November 9, 2013 by Cromag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Mark XVI e XVII should have the same lug width http://www.iwc.com/forum/en/discussion/58666/ Afaik there 2 rep versions, one accurate (20mm lug width) and one inaccurate (21mm lug width) so I am afraid you got the inaccurate one. Just know by hearsay, I have never had any Mark XVII But I agree with you, it's not sure at all it will be a straight fit for the Mark XVI .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromag Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Mark XVI e XVII should have the same lug width http://www.iwc.com/forum/en/discussion/58666/ Afaik there 2 rep versions, one accurate (20mm lug width) and one inaccurate (21mm lug width) so I am afraid you got the inaccurate one. Just know by hearsay, I have never had any Mark XVII But I agree with you, it's not sure at all it will be a straight fit for the Mark XVI ....oh! Well mine is a Mark XVI with XV bracelet. So XV might be 20mm. Let us know when/if you get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 In the pic on the right there's a XVII too, I thought it was yours, bad assumption I suppose The bracelet is too expensive at the moment (and not for sale separately), I think I ll wait and grab a Mark XVII with ss bracelet in few months, not now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromag Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I have all of them. XVI, XVII, 3717, and 3777. All are on bracelet except the XVII. So I'm thinking of selling my XVII and getting the new SS model if the dial not poorly aligned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Yeah, I feel you, I am a bracelet guy too, not a big fan of straps at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC1971 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I noticed that Josh (perfect clones) now has a version of the XVII on bracelet using the 2813 movement for $178. Anyone know if there are any differences cosmetically in terms of accuracy with the 2892 movement? Or is it just the same case, dial with a different movement? http://www.p-cls.com/iwm171101s-mark-xvii-ssss-black-asia-2813-p-15072.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosyzlak Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 There are differences between the cases, needles/hands, font (different/much lighter on the cheaper one) and the datewheels. I remember reading that discussion on another forum, that this was made by a different factory. Comparing the pics side by side it looks similar, but then compared with gen, the more expensive version rep is much closer to gen. The movement in the cheaper one (if it is the 4813) is an overdriven 21-jewel 2813. They work fine from people have said. The 2892 is closer to what iwc gets directly from eta and mods into their in-house movement for the xvii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popklister Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I have all of them. XVI, XVII, 3717, and 3777. All are on bracelet except the XVII. So I'm thinking of selling my XVII and getting the new SS model if the dial not poorly aligned. You really like the IWC style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosyzlak Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Correction to my earlier comment, starting 2006 and finishing conversion 2010, IWC stated that they stopped using ETA2892A2's as the basis for their calibre 30110.Also, the other post asked about the cheaper version xvii. It doesn't use the 4813 I wrote about, but it uses the 2813 apparently, which is a 21 jewel, 21,600bph movement. Accuracy can be good, depends on how you maintain it, etc., there are many mixed opinions depending on who you ask, but most agree gens and gen swiss movements are best (not so much the re-used swiss returns in many newer reps). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC1971 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Correction to my earlier comment, starting 2006 and finishing conversion 2010, IWC stated that they stopped using ETA2892A2's as the basis for their calibre 30110. Also, the other post asked about the cheaper version xvii. It doesn't use the 4813 I wrote about, but it uses the 2813 apparently, which is a 21 jewel, 21,600bph movement. Accuracy can be good, depends on how you maintain it, etc., there are many mixed opinions depending on who you ask, but most agree gens and gen swiss movements are best (not so much the re-used swiss returns in many newer reps). Thanks for the info! Will see if Josh releases a version using the 2892 movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginsd Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Correction to my earlier comment, starting 2006 and finishing conversion 2010, IWC stated that they stopped using ETA2892A2's as the basis for their calibre 30110. I think it is still build by ETA, IWC only wrote the specs. Like they do for the ETA-7750 chronos, which they call IWC-79320... I don't believe IWC puts a manufacture movement into the cheaper watch (Mark VXI compared to PilotsChrono). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Got mine arriving soon from pt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghoststar Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Anyone have any idea if this bracelet will fit the gen Mark XVII? Edited November 21, 2013 by ghoststar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosyzlak Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I was just going from IWC's press release claim that they werent simply modding ETA's, possibly propaganda, as they've been touting in-house movements across their entire line. If anything, the entry level models probably still are ETA at their core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosyzlak Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I think someone said that this rep case and bracelet does not fit gen XVII, the lug width and pin position are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghoststar Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I think someone said that this rep case and bracelet does not fit gen XVII, the lug width and pin position are different. Hmm. Thanks for the info. Although, it would be odd if the lug width wasn't the same as the gen since this watch seems to be the V2 version (just with a bracelet in place of the leather strap), and the V2 definitely has the same lug width as the gen... Man, I hope this bracelet fits the gen. Someone please give me some good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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