rolojack Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 In the USA, there's JB Weld- it's a gray epoxy, it comes with various set times. Thanks for the WSO 580 info RJ! Now if I could just find that pair of 580 ends that I've had for 3-4 years. Another crystal that might work for a DJ type case is the T-29- it equates to the 135 crystal used on the 16000 DJs. True, and also you can mod a SK DJ cyclop by removing the lens. Don't take the Clark as the inner dome is alteed bu the lens.... The SK inner dome is neat. Regarding the endlinks, WSO is a good base to work. They can fit almost all cases after modding. You have to erase the silly ugly 580, but the metal is so thick you can shape it to perfection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 We had the same issue with the crystal on my build with the JMB case. The gen T-22 was loose and would not work, but a gen 25-21 fit perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 We had the same issue with the crystal on my build with the JMB case. The gen T-22 was loose and would not work, but a gen 25-21 fit perfectly. That's odd. The inner diameters of the T21 and T22 should be identical. It's just that the T22 is thicker by about 0.5mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 I agree, but was happy to get a waterproof fit with no mods and I like the look of the t21 better anyways. Of course second hand info as Matt did the assembly so I don't have more details. Sent from my droptop using telepathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Sweet! Outstanding work! I used JMB's case a few times before as well - reshaped after LHOOQ's genuine 1016. It's a great deal! Where did you source the dial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue. Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Dial looks like Yuki! Great project and top work on the case shaping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Pardon my ignorance, but what is wrong with the glass that comes with the JMB caseset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I think it's sapphire (or mineral glass). JMB custom turns the bezel on a lathe to fit the crystal, or at least he did on my 1601 case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Pardon my ignorance, but what is wrong with the glass that comes with the JMB caseset? The complete 1016 kit, as sold by jmb, comes with a Clark T22. There's nothing wrong with that at all, unless you want a domed crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 So if it's a kit, LHOOQ, does he take the rep DJ case, drill lugholes, install a Clark's T-22 and then turn a bezel for it. Or is it something more like a rep 1016 case etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 M, you've got it exactly right, and I think jmb's still got them listed under the Tools & Parts subforum. The key distinction is the DJ case itself, which is more accurately dimensioned than any of the cartel 1016s. In the 6+ years I've been looking at 1016 reps, they've never been upgraded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I think it's sapphire (or mineral glass). JMB custom turns the bezel on a lathe to fit the crystal, or at least he did on my 1601 case Same here. He asked for me to be specific on what case and crystal I was using, so he could turn the proper bezel to make sure it fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 M is correct, the T22 and T21 have the same ID. The T21 is smaller on the OD and also a more domed shape. The cases I use accept a T22 perfectly, no modding involved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 So, I have a caseset with the clarks T22 in it. I like the look of the domed crystals. I also have an SK T21 in my box of spare parts. Is it feasible to send that along with all the other bits and my modder to fit a T21 to the JMB case with a little jiggery pokery? Does that sound like a plan? Will the net result be like rolojack's pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 So, I have a caseset with the clarks T22 in it. I like the look of the domed crystals. I also have an SK T21 in my box of spare parts. Is it feasible to send that along with all the other bits and my modder to fit a T21 to the JMB case with a little jiggery pokery? Does that sound like a plan? Will the net result be like rolojack's pictures? If you go to the smaller OD T-21, you'll need a new bezel since the bezel for the T-22 will be too big. If you could find a T-22 with the dome, you should be ok. SK or GS would likely have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 OK Cheers alligoat. The hunt is on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 We had the same issue with the crystal on my build with the JMB case. The gen T-22 was loose and would not work, but a gen 25-21 fit perfectly. Sorry guys I was incorrect. As other more knowledgeable members have posted, it was not an issue with crystal fit but with the bezel fit. I should have made sure my facts were correct before posting. I apologize for that, I misunderstood Matt. I have now clarified. Both the gen T-21 and T-22 crystals fit the case properly, but the jmb bezel is specked for the T-22 so when we decided to use the T-21 superdome the jmb bezel diameter is too large on that crystal but a gen bezel fits perfectly. The jmb bezel fit the T-22 nicely, we just like the look better with the T-21 and the gen bezel. Sorry if I confused anyone, still learning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I should point out that jmb can easily fabricate a T21-compatible bezel if you ask for it. This was the secret ingredient of my old Space-Dweller franken, as J had mistakenly matched the 1601 case with a Clark T21 that I'd ordered for a DW 6239 build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 OK. So, if I get a new T21 friendly bezel from jmb, I can use my SK domed T21 and crack on with the build? Yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I believe so, mine was made to fit the T-22 but sounds like JMB can make you one for the T-21. My 1016 is out for delivery, so it will be there when I get home....bet I leave work early today. Hard to believe how childish I can be when it comes to a new watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 OK. So, if I get a new T21 friendly bezel from jmb, I can use my SK domed T21 and crack on with the build? Yes? Yes, and... Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 New bezel ordered. Cheers chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 All fantastic stuff in this thread and very helpful for my build. Now, as to the case re-shaping does anybody out there have any comparison shots of a case before 'slimming down' and after. I'm keen to replicate this but don't really know where the case needs to go on a diet. Cheers for any help and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolojack Posted November 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 All fantastic stuff in this thread and very helpful for my build. Now, as to the case re-shaping does anybody out there have any comparison shots of a case before 'slimming down' and after. I'm keen to replicate this but don't really know where the case needs to go on a diet. Cheers for any help and advice. Everywhere ! Top of the lugs, both sides (more than you think !) and of course most of the work is on the bottom. Be super careful, as the space left between the tube hole and the bottom will be very slim ! Also, you will have JUST enough tread left to screw in tight the caseback. This means if you try to go too fast you'll ruin it. Make sure to secure your case in such a way the bottom will end up perfectly flat too. Otherwise, the back case will not meet the mid case everywhere and your watch won't even be dustproof.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Thanks for the tips, looks like a bit of a perilous undertaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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