hologramet Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 A new project in the works... Been collecting parts for a while. 5513 Vietnam case www.rubyswatch.com 560 EUR Dial: 80s glossy (non-spidercracked) yellow/orange tritium dial w/ white gold surrounds New Old Stock 1000 EUR Hands: 80s White gold yellow/orange tritium New Old Stock 700 EUR Insert: Mk3'bis + matching gen tritium pearl 1000 EUR + 150 EUR Movement: Tissot Powermatic 80 with drilled manipulate250 EUR + 250 EUR service/conversion Crown/Tube: Gen 7030/704 / 702 In very good condition 160 EUR Crystal Gen T19 New Old Stock 250 EUR Bracelet: WSO 580 + Custom solid-mid-link Cartel links + Glidelock clasp. Any opinions on the insert? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheld Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Are you sure the first 2 are MK3s? I've always understood the MK3 to have a "bend" at the bottom left of the 4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 The blue is definitely a mk 3: However the black might be a mk4 (however it's not "flat" enough...). I need to do some more double-checking on that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheld Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Oops, yeah I didn't blow up the first pic of the blue enough. Def MK3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 So here goes after taking the best photos I can what I believe are from L-R : MK1, MK1, MK3, MK2 Long 5, MK3, MK3 from 10-50 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcon11 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Awesome looking project, I can't wait to see it together. I agree there's something strange about the first insert, it appears to be a very thinly printed mkiii. Excellent choices with the dial and hands, this is going to be a stunner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Heuer Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Very nice project. Good luck with that👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mir36 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Cool project. Did you already get your Ruby case? I’d be interested to see the crown positioning. I got Ruby’s PCG a few months back and was frustrated to see the crown position as low. I can still salvage it with some filing, but was expecting better at that price point. Edited April 5, 2019 by mir36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcon11 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, mir36 said: Cool project. Did you already get your Ruby case? I’d be interested to see the crown positioning. I got Ruby’s PCG a few months back and was frustrated to see the crown position as low. I can still salvage it with some filing, but was expecting better at that price point. [[Template core/front/global/commentEditLine is throwing an error. This theme may be out of date. Run the support tool in the AdminCP to restore the default theme.]] She will probably help you out if you tell her there's a problem with the case you received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 In short... that black one is an alternative mk 3. Lets call it pointy 4 or mk3.5.Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcon11 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, hologramet said: In short... that black one is an alternative mk 3. Lets call it pointy 4 or mk3.5. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk lol thanks, definitely needed a translation there. They all look nice. I wish these weren't so expensive because the rep ones suck by comparison. Hopefully @slay will release a nice MKIII next  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 lol thanks, definitely needed a translation there. They all look nice. I wish these weren't so expensive because the rep ones suck by comparison. Hopefully [mention=489]slay[/mention] will release a nice MKIII next Remember there is no mk1 mk2 mk3 etc. mk1 is a fat mk3 (most often) or mk3.Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcon11 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, hologramet said: Remember there is no mk1 mk2 mk3 etc. mk1 is a fat mk3 (most often) or mk3. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk So there's basically the early big and small crown inserts, maybe 4 or 5 different types (red triangle, no hashmark, etc.) Next would be the Long 5 (I love these but they seem awfully rare) Then the MKIII fat or slim Then the MKIIII one like you posted above with the more compressed numbers. And there's also a later "service insert" where the numbers are really thin.. Is that a pretty accurate rundown of all aluminum sub inserts? Edited April 12, 2019 by jimcon11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 So there's basically the early big and small crown inserts, maybe 4 or 5 different types (red triangle, no hashmark, etc.) Next would be the Long 5 (I love these but they seem awfully rare) Then the MKIII fat or slim Then the MKIIII one like you posted above with the more compressed numbers. And there's also a later "service insert" where the numbers are really thin.. Is that a pretty accurate rundown of all aluminum sub inserts?Basically yeah...Red triangle inserts usually configured as mkIII (varying fatness, unsure if also tall 5)-not pictured-Mk2 - Tall 5 (can have varying degrees of fatness)Mk3 - ”The standard” also present as Tudor Blue (available as very fat)Mk3.5 - The one above, mix between mk3 and mk4 (not fat)Mk4 - Flat 4 (not fat)Service inserts (really skinny)Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcon11 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 9 hours ago, hologramet said: Basically yeah.. Thanks, I wish I had gotten this rundown a lot earlier, this post oughta be stickied for everybody. The Long 5 insert really makes your 5513 stand out. Oh and I guess the dark lord dial doesnt hurt either It is one of the nicest watches on here IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mir36 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) While we’re on the topic of 5513’s, does anyone know the thickness of the mid-case, sans the caseback and bezel ‘lip’ ? Did the case thickness stay constant throughout the model from the 60’s to the early 80’s? Edited April 14, 2019 by mir36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 I don't know the exact thickness. But I've had this discussion with@Rolojack and he informed me that early 60s especially 5512 PCGs have thinner midcases.Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Yep, that is correct, 5512 PCG's are slightly thinner. No idea on the exact height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 "Yep, that is correct, 5512 PCG's are slightly thinner. No idea on the exact height." "I don't know the exact thickness. But I've had this discussion with Rolojack and he informed me that early 60s especially 5512 PCGs have thinner midcases." Some additional 5512/13 information (may have to copy/paste the links): http://hypebeast.com/2012/2/retrospect-1961-rolex-crown-guard-submariner-5512-chronometer-version https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vintagerolexforum/couple-of-sub-questions-t37447.html https://rwg.cc/topic/186246-phong-5513-pointed-crownguard-case-rehaut-opening-question/ https://rwg.cc/topic/189490-rolex-5513-with-pointed-crown-guards-pics-of-during-and-after/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mir36 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Super helpful. Thanks @automatico!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Is the 703 more correct on a 1985-1987 5513 maybe? Because the 16800(0) started appearing then.. An it had the 703 stock right? Anyone knows when the 703 was introduced (if ever) on 5513? EDIT: About 1982.. so new crown and tube coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 "Anyone knows when the 703 was introduced (if ever) on 5513?" If you look at pictures of 1982 to 1987 5513 they all have 3 dot type crowns on printed and applied marker models. Some might be 702 (both are 'triplock') but the main difference is the smooth area at the lower edge of the crown for the extra O ring on the outside of the case tube. 'Triplock' = two O rings inside the case tube and one under the crown cap. When there is one at the base of the crown, it is not counted. Factoids: No mater how many O rings the rolex crown/tube combo has, the same amount of pressure is applied to the one little bitty gasket between the case tube and case. That's why a high quality single O ring non screw down crown can go 50 meters or more and a double O ring crown can go 200 to 300 meters with no problem. One O ring crowns are good most of the time. Two O ring crowns can dive so deep your head will cave in. Three O ring clowns crowns can make it to the bottom of a 1000 meter deep vat of Night Train wine. Imho. https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1982-rolex-submariner-reference-5513?variant=40591426767 https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1987-rolex-submariner-reference-5513?variant=5435023654927 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Here are two Long 5 (mk2) fat fonts for reference.Kissing 40 // Kissing 40+50Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Looking forward to the finished project. Should be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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