Gavilan Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Has anyone ordered a ETA rep and found that it has a Stelita ETA knockoff movement inside? The watch was advertsed with a swiss ETA inside. I opened the watch up as the Date alignment was horrible, when i noticed that i couldnt see the ETA logo on the mevement. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 what was the watch in question? what was the dealer?...share more info with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavilan Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 It was a Seadweller, advertised with ETA movement. I wont name the dealer just yet as i have asked to have the watch changed over. I cant live with the date font so out of alignment. Just thought id mention it as this may be the way the rep movements will go as the True ETA's get scarce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Has anyone ordered a ETA rep and found that it has a Stelita ETA knockoff movement inside? I thought the SW200 was made with ETA parts. http://www.sellita.ch/catalogue/mvts_auto.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I thought the SW200 was made with ETA parts. http://www.sellita.ch/catalogue/mvts_auto.html It may look like an ETA, but it's totally opposite an ETA, none of the ETA parts will fit this model. It's not a "Knock Off" or bad movement, it's just an option, since ETA is slowly getting out of selling their movements outside the SWATCH group. I have seen and serviced these for over a year now, and don't see any issues with them. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivia Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 It may look like an ETA, but it's totally opposite an ETA, none of the ETA parts will fit this model. It's not a "Knock Off" or bad movement, it's just an option, since ETA is slowly getting out of selling their movements outside the SWATCH group. I have seen and serviced these for over a year now, and don't see any issues with them. RG So, how do you get parts for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Many gen brands are moving to Sellita - Oris for example. Sellita has traditionally finished ETA movements (and I think the movement in Puggy's link is probably one of these), but the SW200 is their own knock-off (citing that many of ETA's patents have expired). I've read that it has 26 jewels, rather than the 2824's 25. Parts will be no problem - these are going to be major mainstream movements. They even have a 7750 knock-off in the works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Sellita has traditionally finished ETA movements (and I think the movement in Puggy's link is probably one of these), but the SW200 is their own knock-off (citing that many of ETA's patents have expired). That explains my misunderstanding. Thanks. The SW200 is probably more Swiss than some of our ETAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I think i would be happy with a selita, with out the date wheel issues of cause, I believe that we will see more of these in the future, i only have a few concerns about qc, An ETA weather chiss or swinese has been made in an ETA factory and as such well checked over, how are the selita movement find in there way in to reps, is it a very back door! or are they subjet to some QC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 The SW200 is probably more Swiss than some of our ETAs. I recon you are scary close to the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azerbyjam Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Has anyone ordered a ETA rep and found that it has a Stelita ETA knockoff movement inside? The watch was advertsed with a swiss ETA inside. I bought my Ultimate PO about 5 months ago and to the best of my recollection it was advertised as having a Swiss ETA movement. When I received it I checked the movement and because I didn't know better and the movement looked like an ETA, I assumed that's what it was. It was only when another thread on this topic was posted, cant remember if was here or TRC, but it caused me to have another look and sure enough my ETA is a Selita SW200. That said the movement has worked flawlessly and keeps great time and as its Swiss I don't consider it a problem, I'd be happy to have another rep with this movement installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavilan Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Cool, thanks for the replies, Glad to hear that there is a Swiss option out there for when ETA is no longer an option. Still the Date Wheel issue bugs me. But something for me to take up with the dealer. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfreeman420 Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 They even have a 7750 knock-off in the works... This is definatley good news. Maybe our beloved ETA based watches will become Sellita based and we will have a reasonably priced reliable chrono movement. If these movements are as good as ETA I have no problem buying watches with these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I hope the new 28k Seiko is available in reps soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Don't sweat the SW200. The info I've seen indicates that it's up to par with ETA 282X / 283X movements. This is an area where you really can't fault the dealer IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I would not mind to have this movement in one of my watches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OiRogers Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Only issue left then is the Datewheel alignment the OP mentions... I'm guessing the SW200 isn't a direct replacement for the 2824 then size wise... best of luck in resolving your issue Gavilan. No reason to have to settle for a crappy datewheel alignment if the photos you purchased from show'd otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azerbyjam Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Only issue left then is the Datewheel alignment the OP mentions... Date wheel alignment on mine is fine, probably just a one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 we are here in the Rep world ASIA WORLD nothing here is SWISS MADE. received yesterday a PAM 111 for modification... Swiss Unitas with needle regulator (this one which is called SWISS MADE) and it isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OiRogers Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Date wheel alignment on mine is fine, probably just a one off. Thats nice to hear. Perhaps the impending ETA drought won't be so bad. I'd always guessed another ebauche maker would step up and produce full movements to fill the void... Perhaps the SW200 is the way of the future (of reps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dachshund Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Does anyone know if and where the Sellita movements can be purchased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Cousins dont stock them but i mailed the factory today and hope to get a reply at some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pix Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Good to know the Sellita is reliable, at least no nightmare when discovering one in a rep. How is it pricewise against an ETA ? Because the REAL question, as usual is : can we rely on the dealer's descriptions..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 As soon as i hear from the factory i will let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddhead Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Good to know the Sellita is reliable, at least no nightmare when discovering one in a rep. How is it pricewise against an ETA ? Because the REAL question, as usual is : can we rely on the dealer's descriptions..? indeed. notwithstanding the reliablity of the movement, why not just call it a Sellita .. why call it an ETA? Not to get back on THAT subject again, but jeez... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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