yellomen Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I will wait untill i see the first review and get a better idea about the dial... gloss or no gloss... that's the question :laugh: If not i'll stick to my DSN PAM082 with OEM dark blue gator strap... awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye_lin Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Josh says new stock in 2 weeks.. not to worry... more available... let them iron out any kinks from the first run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 No one is only going to make 5. The market will be flooded in no time. There will be 100x the number of gens n rep form. So starting 2 weeks from now I will always assume if someone is wearing it it is a fake. Does look good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazonkers Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) Check out the pics of this watch on King's site. They show the dial much better. It really has a nice look to it. I'm excited http://www.cclv.net/PANERAI-191.htm And the back for fun: Edited January 5, 2008 by bazonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 hmm....this watch could fill the blue-dial pam void that the pam 252 north pole abandoned project left in my collection.... i think this watch will look great on a greg stevens horween marina militare strap deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Wow - those are significantly better pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingrick Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 First decent PAM to come out in months... Was planning quit buying reps and save up for a Gen, but this is very tempting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 did someone ask about the lume quality ???? rolli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazonkers Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 did someone ask about the lume quality ???? rolli I'm sure it sucks like the rest. I can get it re-lumed so as long as the back looks good and the dial looks good, I'll be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 did someone ask about the lume quality ???? I forgot. But I did ask if the second batch could have a better, thicker crown. Andrew was non-comittal but he's aware of it now. (It's up to the maker, anyway). I'm also VERY excited. Hope I nab one since the pics Bazonkers posted are GORGEOUS. EDIT: I know this is just a dream, but personally, I would pay $100 more for a random serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 it does not need a 'beefier' crown. auto pams have a thinner crown than manual wind pams. if people would do a bit of research besides just skimming the board and plagiarizing what they read, that info is readily available i have sat at lunch with friends from the knife boards (one who owns 15 gen pams...) wearing my old factory 036 and the crown is thicker than on the gen 40mm or 44mm auto pams i have held up to it. the real problem with the rep crowns is that they have too few teeth. and the most common after market replacement has the correct number of teeth, but an incorrect bevel on the edge. the 229 looks great the only reason i didn't get a davidsen 089 is because it was ti and too close to my 036. this one is different enough from my 5218 and 036 and 029 to justify the purchase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lello Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 No one is only going to make 5. The market will be flooded in no time. There will be 100x the number of gens n rep form. So starting 2 weeks from now I will always assume if someone is wearing it it is a fake. Does look good though. Right what I was thinking Warren... I like this watch a lot. On last year I went to the Panerai boutique, here in Firenze and asked if I could get one of those. They told me they were all booked out, but they took note of my name and said they would call me, if anyone would cancell his reservation..., but it didn't happen. So now I could get it somehow. It's just a shame that only 100 genuine were made and probably 1000 reps will be around soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie7s Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 No one is only going to make 5. The market will be flooded in no time. There will be 100x the number of gens n rep form. So starting 2 weeks from now I will always assume if someone is wearing it it is a fake. Does look good though. If you see someone wearing one you can guarantee its fake! They only made 100 of them and I'm sure the owners are not sporting them around like they were 111's. I have gone to two different Paneristi GTG's with over 150 watches at each of them. The chances of seeing a 229 in the flesh are as rare as seeing a unicorn riding a shooting star wearing a concert t-shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazonkers Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 The chances of seeing a 229 in the flesh are as rare as seeing a unicorn riding a shooting star wearing a concert t-shirt. I've seen that but haven't seen a 229. It was a Celine Dion shirt. Does that count as a concert t-shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie7s Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I've seen that but haven't seen a 229. It was a Celine Dion shirt. Does that count as a concert t-shirt? Absolutely, under no circumstance, does a Celine Dion shirt constitute itself as a concert t-shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Jos says the case is "Polish." Shouldn't is be Latvian or at least brushed? W/ an OEM crown,a nice blue croc strap, high quality single sided AR, and a lume this ought to be one of the better PAM reps for under $500 all in--a pretty good rep/gen ratio since the gen would cost probably 12 grand if you get someone to sell theirs. The dial looks a little too blue (more the color of the 168 than the 082, ) but that could very well be the pics. Caseback looks pretty good. Here's the gen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 It is the dial that scares me on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Jos says the case is "Polish." Shouldn't is be Latvian or at least brushed? More like "Calgon". Ancient Chinese secret, huh. high quality single sided AR Which also reminds me -- Andrew lists his as Double AR. Whilst beautiful, don't Panerai watches have single-sided AR, in their entirety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazonkers Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Which also reminds me -- Andrew lists his as Double AR. Whilst beautiful, don't Panerai watches have single-sided AR, in their entirety? They do. I'm curious to see the AR. The photo on King's site doesn't look like double AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 there were only 5 total of the first stock split between Joshua, andrew and King.. new stock will be available in 2 weeks.. as with the 104 also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Does anyone we know actually have one of these en route? Would be great to see more pics of the dial before the new stock becomes available in two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazonkers Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) I have one in route. I verified with Josh. I don't have my tracking number yet but he said he allocated one of these first ones for me. I ordered early yesterday morning. "Hi, I have allocated one unit for you No worries.. Thanks joshua" EDIT: I just checked his site. I actually do have a tracking number for this order. Yay! I forgot that he doesn't email them to me like Andrew. Edited January 6, 2008 by bazonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazonkers Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) there were only 5 total of the first stock split between Joshua, andrew and King.. new stock will be available in 2 weeks.. as with the 104 also That's crazy! Only 5? I wonder why so few. On that note, they should make limited edition reps. That would be an interesting experiment. Of course, they'd make reps of the reps. Edited January 6, 2008 by bazonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 That's crazy! Only 5? I wonder why so few. On that note, they should make limited edition reps. That would be an interesting experiment. Of course, they'd make reps of the reps. they were the first ones to come out of the "oven" ... I have mine enroute also.. but you have "Honors" bazonkers .. i have posted enough new releases .. so .. please, although i will recieve the parcel probably on tuesday.. you go on ahead and i will look forward to your review .. have fun buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazonkers Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 they were the first ones to come out of the "oven" ... I have mine enroute also.. but you have "Honors" bazonkers .. i have posted enough new releases .. so .. please, although i will recieve the parcel probably on tuesday.. you go on ahead and i will look forward to your review .. have fun buddy Haha, ok, such pressure. Hopefully mine will come soon. We need someone to review a 164 and 104 as well. I didn't get those. Yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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