erwinner Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Now I've had enough waiting for 2 years.... GRRRRR.... I've pulled the trigger and made an appointment to get a GEN one tommorrow! Please protect me from hurting myself aftewards and tell me there's still no rep out yet! Once it's on my wrist I'll definately post pic's. please be patient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwinner Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 whoopsss.... what's this? http://www.wholesale-watches.org/wristwatch-2943.html is somebody actually delivering a mk XVI ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjabo Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 whoopsss.... what's this? http://www.wholesale-watches.org/wristwatch-2943.html is somebody actually delivering a mk XVI ? Has anyone purchased from this collector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 whoopsss.... what's this? http://www.wholesale-watches.org/wristwatch-2943.html is somebody actually delivering a mk XVI ? Looks like a scamsite showing a gen pic. Don't wanna know what kind of crappy watch you'll actually receive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 scam site showing gen pics.. .Agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwinner Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Ok; I was thinking the same thing.... of to the dealer now and go for the GEN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Ok; I was thinking the same thing.... of to the dealer now and go for the GEN... Now you go, my friend, and don't forget to post us some nice pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwinner Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Where to begin...? After 2 years of waiting for our collectors to come up with a decent rep of the mk XVI I couldn't help myself any longer... Last thursday the small hour hand of the IWC GST Chrono SS fell of, so I decided it was time to go to the next level and spoil myself... it took just 1 hour to source a brand-new, unworn mk XVI through www.chrono24.com. But enough said; enjoy these pics which have been shot at sundown, so hope to get more decent pic's once the light is better tomorrow.... And of course the proud owner's wrist shots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Congratulations man, so when????????? the rep comes out you can do a comparison, wear that watch well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 WOW, that looks awesome, congrats!!! You definitely should wear this at the Amsterdam GTG AND WE ALL NEED THE REP!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 BTW i just noticed that this thread after 308 replys is still on topic, if that is not an indication of the love we have for this one i dont know what is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abat Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Congrats on a great purchase, some nice shots there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hawkes Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 WOW!!! Wear it in good health.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magagne Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Where to begin...? After 2 years of waiting for our collectors to come up with a decent rep of the mk XVI I couldn't help myself any longer... Last thursday the small hour hand of the IWC GST Chrono SS fell of, so I decided it was time to go to the next level and spoil myself... it took just 1 hour to source a brand-new, unworn mk XVI through www.chrono24.com. Good move... sometime, it's better to get the GEN, specially if you are so much hook to this model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slai Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Congrats erwinner!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 ErWinner, Congratulations ! You must be very happy with your new partner. How does it compare in feel to your GST ? also, it would be interested to know how much you paid and if you feel the additional money is worth it compared to a potential rep of this watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwinner Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 How does it compare in feel to your GST ? many reasons to say these 2 cannot be compared even if they're bot rep or gen, but let's give it a start: Size: Both are 39 mm; the XVI is 11.5mm thick and though the GST is only 13mm it looks more 'massive'the double AR of the XVI is highly required with the black dial; my GST is a white dial and does not really need the AR, but the shine on the crystal is huge differencethe Lume on the markers and hands of the XVI are great value and last throughout the night. The GST only has tiny dots at 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10 and 11 and no lume at all on the hands. there is absolutely no sound from the rotor on the XVI whereas the rotor of the GST is spinning nicelythe GST case-back has the same 'slots' as the XVI to enable a tool to open the case; on the GST though they are razor-sharp and have given me quite some red skin after a days wear; the XVI caseback is smooth as silkthe crown of the GST is really flimsy; if you unscrew it, it looks like it is going to fall off; the XVI has a shaft which looks like it can hold an atomic explosion I was quite happy with the GST though and have just sent a message to The Zigmeister to inquire the costs and timeslot for fixing and servicing it. also, it would be interested to know how much you paid and if you feel the additional money is worth it compared to a potential rep of this watch. In terms of costs it just depends on your budget I guess; if you compare it to the mk XV which can be bought for about 225USD there's a big gap in costs; but suppose you do the mod's people do to make it approach the gen (double-AR, relume hands, replace the dial by the gen, perhaps even replace the movement with a real ETA 2892-A2) you're budget is also approaching the 1000USD; Personally I feel I was quite lucky with my deal; I've been looking at official dealers for over a year (in the NL's, but also in Miami recently) and had bad luck as they were out-of-stock for some time. Last Friday I decided to browse to www.chrono24.com and found a deal for only 1750EUR. Retail value for this watch is 2850EUR, so it's a great deal in my opinion! The dealer is an supplier for jewelry stores and had this one in return for some funds outstanding on a bankrupt jeweler in Germany. But I've got the official box and papers and the warranty card is stamped at april'08 so still almost 2 years of warranty. Hopefully I won't need it until I send it off for servicing in Schaffhausen or a Richemont servicing center after a year of 3 to 4. I totally agree to those who state I could have had 4 or even more great IWC's for that kind of money, but as this thread allready demonstrates it was the XVI I was after for quite some time now and this is my way to enjoy it! Hope more people can afford this big step or hopefully the collectors will take this case as an example they really need to start working on the XVI project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Many congrats on the Gen, I've given up on a rep Mk XVI ever appearing so I've gone for a 3717-05 which is waiting for it's Canadian Spar treatment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschespeedster Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Any of the MK series watches are sooooooo nice...where are the rep factories on this one???? Not all of us want to rock a 48mm Graham as a daily watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorg0404 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Last Friday, Erwinner and I compared his gen Mark XVI and my modded 3717 (including the Double AR from Jakub, the DW swap and a genuine alligator strap). Our conclusion was that they are only 5 seconds apart... About a year ago, Erwinner revealed to me the world of RWG and provided me the sources to affordable masterpieces I ever dreamt of owning one in my life. Now I have three... . The 3717 fully modded, a PAM 111H from Vaccum fully modded and an Omega Aqua Terra. And I love them all! This is my first post after reading lots and lots of time on the board. Now it is my duty to spread knowledge. So, for all of you who gave up the hope in ever appearing a repped Mark XVI this is your answer to owning an IWC pilots watch. Do you buy a gen Mark XVI, a rep 3717, or both as Erwinner decided for himself after seeing the rep vs. the gen. As you can see from the pictures, an immediate tell is the difference in AR. The latest version of double AR from Jakub has less reflection than the real deal! The next thing is the difference in dial diameter and chunkiness of the 3717. It is much thicker and overall feels much bigger. Therefore, the mark XVI is more the dress watch which you can wear to every occasion. Then there are some more subtle differences like the color of the numbers on the dial and the hands. Especially the hands are not as white as on the gen, but could also be explained by the difference in AR. I also noticed that the pins holding the hands are not as well finished on the rep. Overall the Mark XVI has a really nice finish and I love the looks of it. But, the 3717 compared to a gen IWC is also really, really nice. Thanks for reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwinner Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Thanks Jorg for this excellen comparison... And indeed... Holding the 3717 with all the mods done by experts and a really nice gator strap made my allready subconsiously made decision easy... Owning a GEN feels great, but does not make you switch over to the 'other side'. I'm still a big fan of Rep's! So the pilot chrono is on my wish-list! Just like the Ingy, the Slevin, the .... But first I'll go and spend my money on 2 weeks of holidays in La France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Can we have this one yet, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I can only suggest as an alternative: Sinn 656. The design is a bit Bell and Rossy though. I will still pick the rep Mark XVI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 BUUMMMPPPP! Do we have to wait until 2009 for this rep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Is the fortis B42 Flieger a good alternative????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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