milsub5517 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) ..with its current models. Call me crazy...but i do not like recent Panerai models. I think Panerai is loosing its soul. Originally i liked Panerai for the "bold simplicity" of its early models. Now i think its going in the breitling/rolex direction... (wait till PAM with diamond bezel comes out of Firenze factory) ..and i do not like that. but who am i, right? Edited February 7, 2008 by mil_sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 ..with its current models. Call me crazy...but i do not like recent Panerai models. I think Panerai is loosing its soul. Originally i liked Panerai for the "bold simplicity" of its early models. Now i think its going in the breitling/rolex direction... (wait till PAM with diamond bezel comes out of Firenze factory) ..and i do not like that. but who am i, right? From PSTI: Diamond-set models All the original production of diamond-set models are basically polished steel Luminor Base watches with diamonds slapped on them in an assortment of inappropriate places. The indications offered are simply hours and minutes. They all have black dials, and come with a variety of garish straps. For Christmas 2000 two further diamond-set models were released as well, a 40mm Luminor automatic, and a Radiomir. I'm not sure whether these count as special editions or not. Since then several more watches have been produced. I have never seen any of these watches in a catalogue, and the existence of many of them is only indicated by their presence on the 2001 price list. More diamond set watch references were added in 2002. Diamond set models are now only produced on demand, so I guess the millesimation is out of the window. You mean something like the PAM 030 of 1999? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTR Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Aww now... how could you not like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maikel Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 You are right and I feel the same way but I understand that they have to move on. Now producing more In House movements and a Tourbillon, they got the Manifattura status. Love the In House calibers though. I believe that they'll keep producing the Historic collection just to keep their "soul". With the pre V and pre A's going sky high I wonder where it'll stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I actually like the direction they are headed. How many more $3-5,000 watches based on $50 movements can a company sell? Moving into proprietary movements while maintaining luminor and radiomir based case designs seems to me to be coming as close to sticking to their original heritage as possible while ensuring the longevity and profitability of the brand. Make no mistake, I hate the new price levels, do not love all their new models (and they do need to get rid of the 69 Impala speedometer look for the power reserve ) But the 233 has grown on me and I am loving the pictures of the new diver with built in depth gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subzero1 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Panerai is like rolex - coming out with new and sometimes questionable models, while still maintaining their bread and butter watches (day-date and submariner for Roles, the marina milare and rad cased models for Panerai). I like the push toward in house movements, that's one way to move beyond "upper middle class" status to the true elite in the watch world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 the new pams whit that awfull power reserve thingy is ugly like the 233. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Dani- I agree on the speedometer look as well but the watch is still growing on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Dani- I agree on the speedometer look as well but the watch is still growing on me. not me,whit all the other beautiful watches out their this ugly duckling does not get views from me. but hey even the ugly duck needs some one to love him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I know Lord Rasta said this PAM looks good next to a Super Bowl ring (maybe so, since they're both overkill)... ...but IN GENERAL, this trend is despicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I know Lord Rasta said this PAM looks good next to a Super Bowl ring (maybe so, since they're both overkill)... ...but IN GENERAL, this trend is despicable. rap stars,nba,nfl,nhl all this guys ascpecialy the afro americans love bling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I would LOVE to see a new 112-like base Luminor from Panerai utilising the new 8 Day in-house movement. I could fall in love with the 233 if they moved the PR indicator to the rear of the movement, like the JLC movement in the 190. I can live with the date, the GMT hand and the day/night indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I would LOVE to see a new 112-like base Luminor from Panerai utilising the new 8 Day in-house movement. I could fall in love with the 233 if they moved the PR indicator to the rear of the movement, like the JLC movement in the 190. I can live with the date, the GMT hand and the day/night indicator. I agree.. I also hate the PR indicator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well, if you prefer the complications visible on the back go with the Tourbillon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esdee Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 yeap the same here, i love diver watches because of the dial simplicity, thats why i like panerai, simple dials, elegant shape. the 127 is a dream, now panerai is making 47mm watches with the p.2002 movement buuuut... date - gmt - power reserve etc, i hate gmt on panerais and power reserve i hope they will remake 1950 with a different name and p.2002 but keep the dial simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 For me Panerai will be always be simplicity... Base dial - Polished SS case and a tan aged strap to perfection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esdee Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 For me Panerai will be always be simplicity... Base dial - Polished SS case and a tan aged strap to perfection how can anyone disagree V! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well, if you prefer the complications visible on the back go with the Tourbillon. Don't even get me started on that, Kruz! I don't see the need for a PR complication at all, especially on an 8 day movement. Just wind it up every once in a while and you're set. It's not that tough to say to yourself: "Hmmm, I haven't wound my watch in almost a week, I guess it's time..." Is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asad Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 To alot who like the 233, which undoughtubly is a great watch. But if they make a simple looking 44mm 8 day, I will be all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I agree.. I also hate the PR indicator... Me too. I heard that Pugwash came up with a funny name for it -- dracula teeth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tech Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I actually like the direction they are headed. How many more $3-5,000 watches based on $50 movements can a company sell? SNIP But the 233 has grown on me and I am loving the pictures of the new diver with built in depth gauge. K, I never liked the 233 until the dealer slapped it onto my wrist....it is sweet....its perfect...GMT, PR, Date....without their crappy cyclops...(I hated the date window on my 252)....and of course....a movement that is worthy to be called Manifatture....I'm still on the fence to get one this year....but it is the only gen I am interested in ...for now. Are you thinking of gettin one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I don't see any diamond model among their new models. And the 233 is a beauty. Period. Just, should I ever get one, I'll remove the GMT hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 You know what watches like these: make me think? FAKE Not so much because of cost, just because they look so different from the historical standard, that it's almost like Canal St crap Sorry Mr NFL, that goes for you to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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