Chronus Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) I can understand about the craving part, and I know how it tastes (I've tried it before ) but just because we crave something, it doesn't always make it right does it. You forgot to mention the useless drain on finances that is the craving of timepieces...! (oh and love the Akuma animation) Edited March 20, 2008 by Chronus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnagy Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Let's chop down the Amazon rainforest so there is more lebensraum for the human population... that's the spirit!i could use some more real brazilian hardwood watchboxes,also!just playing.i'm all for environmental protection,i am an avid fisherman.but,the fact is that the earth could support a much larger population than it currently has.with all the technology out there you would think we could come up with something like cleaner fuel,water desalanization plants for abundant water,something.fact is if there is no money in it,it won't get done no matter how much someone cries about it.also,if there is money in it,it will get done,no matter who gets hurt or killed in the process.there is evil in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Ya think China is bad... http://www.popgive.com/2008/03/since-when-...o-death-is.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 that's the spirit!i could use some more real brazilian hardwood watchboxes,also!just playing.i'm all for environmental protection,i am an avid fisherman.but,the fact is that the earth could support a much larger population than it currently has.with all the technology out there you would think we could come up with something like cleaner fuel,water desalanization plants for abundant water,something.fact is if there is no money in it,it won't get done no matter how much someone cries about it.also,if there is money in it,it will get done,no matter who gets hurt or killed in the process.there is evil in the world. If i em + you are - You cant even realise that we are to many humans on this earth, you are one of does that cant think outside the human race !? You do now we share this planet whit other life forms? I will rather have wildlife and nature, air ,water, rainforest, then 1billion people more on this planet. If all teknoligi was to go away i woud be one of the first to be happy, lets get down to basic Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I will rather have wildlife and nature, air ,water, rainforest, then 1billion people more on this planet. Between human beings and the rest, I'll choose human beings every time. If all teknoligi was to go away i woud be one of the first to be happy, lets get down to basic Wow, I never took you for a Luddite, Dani. Ironically, you share the same opinion as Wahabbists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc savage Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 The movie Idiocracy wasn't too great, but I loved this bit on evolution: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 A look on the bright side: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=59402 It would be great if it turns out to be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 @ Dani... Do you REALLY and truly think that there are too many humans on the planet? Regarding your statement that you'd rather more air, water..etc.. I'm sure that you must realize that 3/4 of the planet is made up of water, that there is no shortage of air, and that humans are part of "nature." Here's one for ya? What if one of those "additional" billion people discovered the cure to cancer? Or a way to mass produce cheap synthetic food and save all the fuzzy puppies? Do you think that you deserve to be here more than one of those "additional" billion people because of your holier-than-thou attitude? If technology was gone, what would happen to the scientists and processes that go into making balanced dog food? What about vaccines or heart-worm pills? What if the cuddly doggies couldn't eat IAMS because the technology wasn't there and suddenly decided a young child or someone's infirm parent would be tasty? Quite honestly, if you think there are too many people on the planet, should we get rid of some of them? Would a truly hardcore animal lover kill themselves so that there would be fewer humans on the planet and so that dogs could live more harmoniously? The whole attitude is absurd. I agree that consuming a canine is disturbing but the only reason it is disturbing to most people is because of the cultural attachment many Westerners have to domesticated animals. For you to sit on your throne and dictate why an entire nation and race should change established cultural practices, then deride anyone who DARES to disagree with you, is arrogant and foolish. And to seal the deal, I'm eating a delicious piece of prime rib I took home earlier from a VERY nice steak house (which I drove to in a technologically advanced car, built in an Asian country, covered in leather AND wood, and running premium gas) ... delicious. Ciao, Shundi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Eat me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSlayer Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 You forgot to mention the useless drain on finances that is the craving of timepieces...! Yes it is beginning to drain my finances Thats why I'm trying to cut back now and limit my collection. It is addictive, but I think we have to be rational at some point. (oh and love the Akuma animation) Thanks! My favourite character in Street Fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spa Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 one thing's for sure western made brainwash works really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Between human beings and the rest, I'll choose human beings every time. Wow, I never took you for a Luddite, Dani. Ironically, you share the same opinion as Wahabbists. I dont even now what luddite is, but yes i cant see what teknology to this date in time has done to our planet that is positive towards anything else then us humans. You now what if i was to have the choice of a human that was born whit some deforma/diease and a healthy animal i woud thake the healty animal ANYDAY.. We humans think its a right to have children, in nature only the strong have children becasue of this its not so many disease and such among animals. If a weak person mates whit another weak person that child will bare the scars of them in the future, is that correct to do against that child?? my vote goes towards this 2 people adopt a healty child and raise it as their own insted of having a baby that will suffer in life becasue of their genetics.. @ Dani... Do you REALLY and truly think that there are too many humans on the planet? Regarding your statement that you'd rather more air, water..etc.. I'm sure that you must realize that 3/4 of the planet is made up of water, that there is no shortage of air, and that humans are part of "nature." Here's one for ya? What if one of those "additional" billion people discovered the cure to cancer? Or a way to mass produce cheap synthetic food and save all the fuzzy puppies? Do you think that you deserve to be here more than one of those "additional" billion people because of your holier-than-thou attitude? If technology was gone, what would happen to the scientists and processes that go into making balanced dog food? What about vaccines or heart-worm pills? What if the cuddly doggies couldn't eat IAMS because the technology wasn't there and suddenly decided a young child or someone's infirm parent would be tasty? Quite honestly, if you think there are too many people on the planet, should we get rid of some of them? Would a truly hardcore animal lover kill themselves so that there would be fewer humans on the planet and so that dogs could live more harmoniously? The whole attitude is absurd. I agree that consuming a canine is disturbing but the only reason it is disturbing to most people is because of the cultural attachment many Westerners have to domesticated animals. For you to sit on your throne and dictate why an entire nation and race should change established cultural practices, then deride anyone who DARES to disagree with you, is arrogant and foolish. And to seal the deal, I'm eating a delicious piece of prime rib I took home earlier from a VERY nice steak house (which I drove to in a technologically advanced car, built in an Asian country, covered in leather AND wood, and running premium gas) ... delicious. Ciao, Shundi The cure for cancer will come but then their will come something else, its have nature works. If you think water is all over the place then pleas explain why almost all sience people think their will be wars not fought over oil in the future but water? I can mention India,Bangladesh,Pakistan,Kina this region will be unstabil if the fight over water cant be resolved..Yes we have big seas full of water but they are not located strategic towards any place we humans can use most of it. To have the rainforest,water, clean air, a magnifold of animals in the future is more importent then more humans on this planet. And towards your last remark i em no vegan have can i be a vegan when i belive we as humans are the worst predators to ever walk this planet.. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 @ Dani... Here's one for ya? What if one of those "additional" billion people discovered the cure to cancer? That could lead to even more population growth, unless nature devises another way to limit it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I dont even now what luddite is, but yes i cant see what teknology to this date in time has done to our planet that is positive towards anything else then us humans. Ludditter er i dag en beskrivelse p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 That could lead to even more population growth, unless nature devises another way to limit it... Don't worry. It always does. As a person who is the daughter of an Oncologist-H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Eugenics! Oh boy, Dani. Yes seems i do fall into that catagory but not the luddite as i do hope we will see more tekonolgy progress towards animals and the welfare of our planet.. I only said if it was to happen that tekonolgy was gone i woud not cry about it i realy dont think it will ever happen.. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Don't worry. It always does. As a person who is the daughter of an Oncologist-H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Your sure no one is suggesting it? Maybe i em. I know... No realy i dont, as its normal for a life form to try fight of diease... Even if it didn't, we humans were given the capacity to create alternate worlds in other parts of this Universe, given our imaginations, intelligence and motor skills. I don't know if humans are the crowning creation of God, of evolution, whatever you want to call it. And every time I wake up and see this beautiful world, my eyes water at its majesty -- hoping it'll last for millions of years more, long after I'm turned to dust. But I do know that between Gaia, animals and humans, my hopes are with humans. EDIT: Heh. I read what I wrote and rolled my own eyes. Now you know why my English tutor once called my prose "Arabic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I know... Even if it didn't, we humans were given the capacity to create alternate worlds in other parts of this Universe, given our imaginations, intelligence and motor skills. I don't know if humans are the crowning creation of God, of evolution, whatever you want to call it. And every time I wake up and see this beautiful world, my eyes water at its majesty -- hoping it'll last for millions of years more, long after I'm turned to dust. But I do know that between Gaia, animals and humans, my hopes are with humans. If god exist i em sure after seing have we humans turned out he comited seppuku God, religion lets not start their Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Don't worry. It always does. As a person who is the daughter of an Oncologist-H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I quite agree. Something which does disturb me though, is the niggling suspicion that medical science could probably cure cancer already, but, the pharmaceutical bigwigs are keeping 'the cure' under wraps, because they make more money selling 'treatments', and they would by selling 'the cure'. I don't buy into this theory. The three of my four grandparents I mention having died of cancer did so because they were 3-pack-a-dayers. None of their parents died of cancer. My point is, we may have seen a burgeoning of cancer because of lack of information as to what causes it, in their generation (not their case, as 2 of the 3 were physicians). That is not the case now. If someone doesn't know that smoking stimulates the proto-oncogenes inside all of us, they're fools. So if the pharmaceuticals are banking on an increase or steadiness in cancer any time soon, which will keep them rolling it in like Midas, they're idiots. There's much more money to be made in cures, than not. Else men with limp willies would never have gotten Viagra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Something which does disturb me though, is the niggling suspicion that medical science could probably cure cancer already, but, the pharmaceutical bigwigs are keeping 'the cure' under wraps, because they make more money selling 'treatments', and they would by selling 'the cure'. That would assume all the pharmaceutical companies (you know, the ones with fierce rivalries and industrial espionage) would have to agree to it. The first to make a cure would put their competition out of the treatments market. It'd be a license to print money at the expense of your rivals. In other words, not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnagy Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 if god exists,there will be alot of people in alot of trouble.if not,who gives a rip who does what.if someone is robbed,raped,if retarded people are murdered,DOGS EATEN,kids murdered,species exterminated,who cares.we will just be ruled by nature and nature is cold and cruel.all those things could be deemed ok in the animal kingdom.those are the things animals do to survive.bottom line.you cannot disbelieve in god AND whine at some perceived injustice.as soon as you turn away from god,your viewpoint should turn to might makes right.therfore if you don't like the fact someone eats dogs or chooses to raise a handicapped child,go get an army and see who's right.if you WHINE and don't do anything about it yourself,YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM,AND SHOULD BE ELIMINATED ON THE BASIS OF YOUR OWN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or it could be alot of people aren't really sure what they believe.if that is the case you might want to throw out your computer and get every book on religion,philosophy,life,death,everything,lock yourself in your room and figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 if god exists,there will be alot of people in alot of trouble.if not,who gives a rip who does what.if someone is robbed,raped,if retarded people are murdered,DOGS EATEN,kids murdered,species exterminated,who cares. We care. Just because I don't believe in God, it doesn't make me a rapist. I resent the implication it does. You don't need God to know what's right and what's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 We care. Just because I don't believe in God, it doesn't make me a rapist. I resent the implication it does. You don't need God to know what's right and what's wrong. I agree with that. And sometimes one actually needs to say it, than just to put a tick below -- so I decided to speak up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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