t Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hi guys i heard that PALP crwons are very rare these days. I had 5 on sale corner and they was sold in a minute and i could sell 50 if i had them. The crowns from member "Pam" last batch had many flaws and most of them was defect and unusable (The Zigmeister reported) so i think i should produce new good thick crowns for RWG. i will not sell them for the same high price like PALP or Pam (40-45euro)... i think a price between 20-30euro is fair. But i need your advice and i need a sample. PAM experts let me know... which is the best crown??? I think genuine crowns are not usable for reps without modification. So we should go for a crown which is useable for all reps without modification. let me know BTW, should anyone in the same project let me know and i will pass it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Good Idea. I learnt that Gens don't fit the hard way!!! But they are a small feet of engineering given the spring loaded part. Best of luck I might partake if you get enough punters ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ta8088 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hey t absolutley! I'd be in for several. I need some for both manual wind and automatic projects I have going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 That would be great, t! In consideration of your reliability, skillness and precision, I am sure these would come out as a gorgeous product. I would surely be in for several. Personally, I think that palp's/PAM's crowns were the best in shape (especially the number of teeth, and the fact that no tube mod was needed), and Lello's crowns were the best in manifacturing as they had a spring. (I do not like the gen crowns currently available, IMHO. Too rounded edges to my eyes. Not like the most recent crowns on gen Pams). But even without the spring, if you were just able to replicate the palp's crown without its flaws, that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I am sure it would sell well. Best of luck on the project. I do hope you will drop the size to 2.0 from 2.1. The 2.1 IMHO was too big and even though 1.9 is true to gen our rep cg's do have a slightly larger inner space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted May 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 hmmmm you guys mean i should use the PALP crown as sample??? in this case it was the best if "PALP" or "Pam" should produce new pieces... this would be easier as they have the tools to produce this crowns. I must build the tools... and this is very expensive and takes 3-4 months from factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo35 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 You would definitely have a market if you made some. I still have two "titanium look" crowns I bought from PAM which are absolutely useless, with crooked stem bores. The worst part is that PAM seems to have disappeared and hasn't responded to PM's and emails from more than one member concerning this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 hmmmm you guys mean i should use the PALP crown as sample??? in this case it was the best if "PALP" or "Pam" should produce new pieces... this would be easier as they have the tools to produce this crowns. I must build the tools... and this is very expensive and takes 3-4 months from factory. Both palp and PAM disappeared, and even before vanishing PAM was not a champion in communication... But the main point is that their crowns were far from perfect. If you can produce a crown like their 2mm version, without their flaws, that would already be great. If you can even add a spring like in Lello's crown, that would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrischy Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Count me in for 2, mein Freund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 t- You bring up a good point but using the gen has its own issues. Gen crowns have a much deeper recess and so there is a real risk that the standard rep crown guard won't work with it. Now if you also want to replicate a gen crownguard... Also Palp's stem seemed to fit all rep case tubes. As you know the key flaw with using a gen is having to redo your case tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Lancelot Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I would be in for a few. Titanium also??? Agree with Kruzer, crown and crown guards would be great and would likely sell like hot cakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotersf Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I would take a dozen+ myself. doing a replica CG ala Jimmy Fu would do very well also...since you're thinking about taking on a project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I would be in for a few. Titanium also??? Agree with Kruzer, crown and crown guards would be great and would likely sell like hot cakes. I too have a defective crown from PAM. It would be great to have t crowns produced. I would buy several. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmt Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I would take a dozen+ myself. doing a replica CG ala Jimmy Fu would do very well also...since you're thinking about taking on a project. That's what i was thinking. doing the whole assembly-- CG and Crown-- would finally get this right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I never received mine from Palp either.. I guess he's gone now. Perhaps you could collaborate with V if he makes his crown guards as well. I think he'll be using his genuine CG for that. Assuming he'll have any time to himself nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratedzeus Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 replacting thewhole CG is a copyright infrigement and in Germany this might be risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Great ideas here. Definitely search through some of the old posts to get a feel for all the issues that Palp encountered with the bevel, size, threading, etc before they were usable. But if you were able to produce a 2.0 palp (instead of a 2.1) and a Jimmy Fu CG.... It'd be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Lancelot Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Perhaps you could collaborate with V if he makes his crown guards as well. I think he'll be using his genuine CG for that. Assuming he'll have any time to himself nowadays Thats a great idea. This will be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the osteopath Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I would happily take 3 off your hands- especially if they would fit a 6497 movement w/o modification. -O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Perhaps it's also worth getting the Jimmy CG done as well, as that will be great for the olfer models, eg. PAM027, 028, 029, 063 etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 1 x 6497 1 x 7750 Definately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 If you could do a JimmyFu CG and a 2.0 correct crown the sky is the limit T. I know I'd be in for some serious numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 If you could do a JimmyFu CG and a 2.0 correct crown the sky is the limit T. I know I'd be in for some serious numbers Go for it t I am in for at least 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 crowns with spring mechanism and case-tube can manufacture only one local factory here. they are manufacturer of watch crown assortments. and this factory is here the last one. and no other crown factory here. dying branch. i have checked the possibilty to get this special crown, but no chance. they know all crown types. so... without a spring mechanism can manufacture all cnc-fine-mechanics companies. also the case tubes. rolli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerwine Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I would take 3 pieces/or sets for myself as well. Rogerwine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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