t Posted May 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 no CG.. this is to much risk here in germany. PAM CG is a protected Trade Mark crown with spring is to difficult. I think a PALP crown but in 2.0mm is the best way any other ideas??? i heard that the PALP crown has to less rills? How much is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 i heard that the PALP crown has to less rills? How much is correct? Do you mean teeth? The palp crown has the correct number.... I forget what the number is though. Someone probably knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 60 tine on the crown. You are smart to take a pass on the CG. By the way remaking the Jimmy CG may or may not work with the 27 or 28 anyhow. Jimmy cg was built for one position handwind - not two stop automatic. Automatic cgs's are 1-2mm deeper for this reason. The 2892/3 with a gen or otherwise spring loaded crown leaves very little room for error. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't - even with a custom case tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 no CG.. this is to much risk here in germany. PAM CG is a protected Trade Mark crown with spring is to difficult. I think a PALP crown but in 2.0mm is the best way any other ideas??? i heard that the PALP crown has to less rills? How much is correct? @ t I have a Palp crown that was in that PAM lot of defects; incorrectly tapped threads. If you need it for your project you can have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted May 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 @ t I have a Palp crown that was in that PAM lot of defects; incorrectly tapped threads. If you need it for your project you can have it. vlydog thanks but i have also a PALP crown for sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) 1,95mm thick, 60 teeth, for 6497. If you are really going to do this count me in for one stainless and one Ti crown. If you need detailed dimensions I Edited May 3, 2008 by Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomeo Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 I'd be in for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 I would be in for one or two if i get a new pam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosemkamtsan Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 i would suggest looking at the Davidsen titanium crowns that received much acclaim as being very gen looking. Apparently they are spot on, but the big problem was that his ss and pvd crowns are different. i'll try to post a pic soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosemkamtsan Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 i would suggest looking at the Davidsen titanium crowns that received much acclaim as being very gen looking. Apparently they are spot on, but the big problem was that his ss and pvd crowns are different. i'll try to post a pic soon. after looking more closely, i don't think the DSN crowns have enough teeth. oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 (edited) If the Palp crown is being used as a sample please correct the recess, where the lever closes. This should be deeper than Palp's to allow a more normal CG lever length because Palp's crown required the levers to be shortened too much. BTW, DSN's latest SS crown and tube is excellent except for the bevel on the edge being too much. If he could produce the same crown with less bevel it would be perfect and it comes with its own case tube. Edited May 4, 2008 by PAMman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Great project, T! I would be in for 2 x 7750 2.0 crowns, provided they fit the regular rep CG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewing Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 I would be interested by a nice crown! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 I would suggest using some combination of a gen crown and a Palp as the model. Both are readily available from members and I suspect T has them anyhow. The reason why I suggest a Palp is that other than shrinking the overall width from 2.1 to 2.0 or 1.9 everything about it works with most rep cases and crown guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsPeterAndImOld Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 1,95mm thick, 60 teeth, for 6497. I'd take two of these in stainless steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofSpeed Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Simply put.. I think at 30-40 EUR ($45-60 USD)... you would sell out all under about 200 units for sure.... that's almost a guarantee... I would definitely be in for some... As for crown guards... i am in possession of a 029A crown guard assembly... the lever and pin are still in the blister pack while the CG itself was taken out of its blister pack (still have it though) to see if the screws matched up.... i also have the invoice itself from richemont.... been thinking of looking around for a place to make them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Simply put.. I think at 30-40 EUR ($45-60 USD)... you would sell out all under about 200 units for sure.... that's almost a guarantee... I would definitely be in for some... As for crown guards... i am in possession of a 029A crown guard assembly... the lever and pin are still in the blister pack while the CG itself was taken out of its blister pack (still have it though) to see if the screws matched up.... i also have the invoice itself from richemont.... been thinking of looking around for a place to make them... Make them i em sure you will sell many of them, and i em sure if you need help some here woud steep up Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vootzilla Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 i'm in!! good move, t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted May 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 OK latest update: PALP crown but 2.0mm instead of 2.1 any other advice? in my opinion... plap crown is not good enough. The crown fits to close on the case??? The genuine crowns are different??? V - where are you when we need you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 I'd take two Unitas and one Valjoux crown! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 V - where are you when we need you? V is playing whit his new kid and enjoying it to the max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootall Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 What is the diameter of the crown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 in my opinion... plap crown is not good enough. The crown fits to close on the case??? It depends on the lenght and diameter of the rep tube on the rep case, t. If the diameter is a no-fit to the ... uhm, I don't know how to call it... the crown "ditch", then the crown stays away from the case and there is little or nothing that can be done. If the diameter fits, then the crown can still stay away from the case, if the tube is too long i.e. if it was designed for a crown with a deeper "ditch". In this case filing down the tube is a fix. The crown can also stay too close to the case. Gen crowns are not flush with the case, there is about a 0.3-0.4mm distance. A decent fix for a crown too close to the case is often just adding a 2nd crown gasket. I hope this makes sense. I tried palp's crowns on several different rep cases and I found all possible result, from crowns too close to the case, to crowns too far from it. It depended on the case, not on the crown. Still, palp's crowns were a good tradeoff. They fitted most cases with little or no further modding. Better, under this respect, than e.g. lello's crowns, that needed to file the tube on 90% of cases. I think that if you can just remake palp's crowns, but 2.0mm thick and without their aligment issues, you will have a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWR Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 I would take one for 7750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted May 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 ok sounds good a 1:1 PALP crown but in 2.0mm instead of 2.1mm. is this the final result? any other ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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